These are all the questions I've answered so far. They haven't been formattted except the questions are in bold, and they're not in any order at all. They appear in the order that they appeared in the forums.

These original posts, before I started posting at The Leaky Cauldron, are embarrassing to me. I know much more now (regarding character names and what it was I was seeing) than I did then. Please forgive my ignorance.

Oscarwatch thread

I just saw Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire! (SPOILERS!)

07-09-2005, 10:17 PM

I just got back from a test screening, and I thought it was very good! I still like the 3rd one best, but this was almost as good, and definitely better than the 1st two (which I thought were both alright). I haven't read any of the books except the 1st one, so I have no idea how faithful it was or whether fans will be screaming bloody murder.

I got the pass when I went to see Howl's Moving Castle. We weren't told what the movie would be, just that (as it says on the pass) "This is a new family movie from a major Hollywood studio, scheduled to be released in theatres some time later this year."

The music track was temporary, but I thought it sounded just fine. I have no idea what it might have been from. I'm sure others will pop up with more information. The special effects weren't anywhere near done, and I thought it was fascinating to see what was essentially a work print, with many scenes in front of green screen, several effects in wire frame, colored dots on actor's faces, and flying scenes where the wires were not yet digitally removed.

Without having read the book and not knowing anything about the plot, I was able to follow it fairly well. It made me want to read the book, to get more detail. The pace was good, the acting was good, and the 14-year old in me has a terrible crush now on Ron, who I think is much cuter than Harry. Hermione didn't have nearly as much to do in this one, which was my only disappoinment. I didn't look at my watch at all, before or after, so I don't know how long it was, definitely over 2 hours though. It could have been longer though, because I find that world interesting. I guess I really should read the books.

There was a girl sitting beside me who not only hadn't read any of the books, she hadn't seen any of the other movies, and she didn't seem too impressed. Then again, she walked out of Fellowship after 20 minutes because she'd read the LOTR books and the characters didn't look anything like what she'd imagined. Uh, ok. We didn't have a lot to talk about after she said that.


hurricanesmith, I'm in Chicago.

Quote: Originally Posted by cbrownjc Don't want to doubt your report or anything so I have a question - can you discribe what happened at the end of the film? How was it done, give some specifics? (I've read the book - its my favorite HP book too - so I don't care about being spoiled myself).

SPOILERS for people like me who haven't read the book.

Harry, some big hulking Russian-type guy, a girl (both from another school) and another kid from Hogwarts were in the 3rd part of a wizard tournament. This consisted of finding a prize (a crystal goblet-like thing, I forget what they called it) in a maze. Harry saves the life of the other Hogwarts student and they reach for the goblet together and are both transported to a graveyard. The rat-like guy from the last movie was there, holding a thing that looked like a wizened baby. He cut off his own arm, and took blood from Harry's arm, and mixed them with some other things, dropped the baby-like thing in and out came Voldemort (these special effects weren't done yet). Voldemort and Harry get into a wand fight. His parents appear and help him get away. He grabs the kid who'd been killed by Voldemort and grabs hold of the goblet, then they appear back in front of the school where everybody is waiting. Harry is taken away by Brendan Gleeson, who turns out not to be Brendan Gleeson, but some guy's son who's helping Voldemort (Gleeson is being held prisoner in a series of locked trunks.) Snape and not Richard Harris and Miss Brodie show up just in time to keep not Brendan Gleeson from killing Harry. Hermione tells Ron to just ask her to the dance next time, ok?


Ralph was GREAT! Very scary. I don't know what he'll look like in the end, because Feinnes had green dots all over his face, so I'm sure they'll CGI something that looks pretty horrific.

I was kind of snarky with my description, but that wasn't meant as being directed toward you cbrownjc. I was just too lazy to go look up the character names, sorry. A lot more happened than that (for instance, Malfoy's father was there at the graveyard too, no big surprise to me, even without having read the books). If anything though, it was too edited. I could have stayed in that graveyard longer. The whole movie could be longer and I wouldn't mind.

There were no ending credits


I think Alfonso Cuarón is a genius, so I was predisposed to adore the 3rd one. This one *felt* more like the 3rd one than the first two, very dark and forboding. The whole wizard world felt more dangerous, like someone actually could die (and someone did). I was amazed at the dangers that the wizard tournament put these students through. Parents must be very different there.


Golightly, not having read the book, I'm not sure what you mean by "fight." They don't physically clash, but they become estranged, because Ron (and many other students) think that Harry put his own name into the Goblet of Fire, when the rules had stated that you had to be 17 to take part in the tournament.

Miranda Richardson is a hoot as a reporter who keeps getting Harry's age wrong (she says 12, when he's actually 14). I get the feeling they cut her part down though. It seemed that she might have had more to do than just interview him once.

Corleone, I thought the movie was very exciting, but I'll just bet that certain scenes were cut down by necessity. The dragon fight, for instance, seemed short. As I said, everything could have been longer and I wouldn't have minded.


Originally Posted by hurricanesmith
This is a big release that's far in the future, and this is our AICN moment. Plus, it'll probably be in contention for some techs.
Moving to Main!
HS

I'm sorry I'm not much of a reviewer. For an AICN moment, a better representative could have been chosen!


I don't feel the need to defend myself because I know where I was tonight. I thought about going to AICN, but that place scares the shit out of me. I feel brain cells popping every time I break down and go there. I had to tell somebody though, so I chose you guys.

Depending on how many places there are for special effects, this could get one of them, but not instead of the other biggies. One special effect that did seem pretty much finished was near the beginning, when a whole wizard camping area is wiped out by demons. A huge part of the sky is taken up by the face of a ghoul. THAT was scary! (a little before that was a funny bit...they-Ron's dad, sister, brothers, Ron, Herminone and Harry-go into a tent that from the outside looks like a tiny pup tent, but from the inside looks like a palace. Also, the bunk beds there are floating above each other.)

They chose about 20 people to stay for what I guess was a focus group, but they didn't choose me. They rushed everybody else out of the theater. We did get to fill out forms with our impressions, what characters and scenes we liked, things we didn't like. The security was intense. They checked everybody's bags (and wouldn't let people bring in cell phones) and wanded people, and they had things set up at the front that were probably infrared cameras to make sure people weren't recording. There were several big bouncer-looking guys dressed in black, not the type you'd want to be on the bad side of.

The screening was at Piper's Alley theater (right next door to Second City) in the big theater there, and it was pretty full, but not completely full. I sat in the 3rd row center and there was only one other person in my row and no one in front of me.

They'd had another screening earlier. When I got given my pass, I was asked if I had any kids to bring, especially between the ages of 9-12. Those passes were for 3pm, while ours was at 6pm. The screening was originally supposed to be at the River East 21, but it was changed to Piper's. I don't know why.

I tried to guess what the movie would be. I thought sure it would be Chicken Little. I was hoping for Narnia, but figured the special effects weren't anywhere near done. Harry Potter never even crossed my mind. When a guy went to the front and said that we were among the first to see Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, everyone cheered. There was also clapping when it was over, so most people seemed to like it.


I don't know how long the movie was because I didn't have a watch with me. The pass said to get there at least 45 minutes early for a 6pm start. I got there about 5 and there were already a lot of people in front of me. The fella who told us the name of the movie talked about the special effects not being done, and that the soundtrack was temporary. I don't know how long after 6 it actually started. I didn't leave immediately because I filled out the form, and went to the bathroom, but it was 9:06 when I walked out of the theater and looked at the bank clock across the street. Whatever, it was probably at least 2 and a half hours. I should have brought my watch.

The ball was in the movie. Ron asks Hermione as a last resort but she'd already been asked by the hulking Russian-type guy. Harry asks a cute Asian girl, but she's already been asked by the other Hogwarts student who's in the tournament. Harry and Ron finally go with a couple of Indian girls who end up finding Harry and Ron excruciatingly boring.


Quote: Originally Posted by WarriorKeira
Can you tell me if certain regular character reveals his Dark Mark (face of a ghoul) to Fudge, Dumbledore, Harry and some other people at the end? I`ll be very pissed off it that scene didn`t make it in the movie.

I don't know who Fudge is, and I can't remember a scene like that. Weird faces that I remember are Sirius, who only appears as a face made out of fire in a fireplace (very good special effects there), the son of someone important* when he changes from Brendan Gleeson to himself, several guys in the graveyard who have ghoulish masks on (Malfoy's father being one of them), and Voldemort, before he turns into Ralph Feinnes. Brendan Gleeson's face was pretty messed up, lots of scars and a fake eye that moved. His makeup was very well done.

*I don't know who that person is. Someone from Azkaban is being interrogated and names someone who claims innocence and who seems to be one of the judge's son, because the judge says something like "I have no son" or something like that. I don't remember exactly how it went. Harry was there, but not really there. He had been looking into a cauldron, and fell in and fell down into the middle of the proceedings, but no one could see him. That whole section was a bit confusing to me, and I'm sure is much clearer in the book.


Quote: Originally Posted by cbrownjc
Another question - can you tell me what the final shot of the movie is? I'm actually really curious about how they're going to end it - on an up note or a dark note. (I'm actually hoping for the latter). (Sorry for being kinda obessive, but this is the film of my favorite book in the series, so - )

I don't remember what the final shot was, sorry. I know that sounds dodgy, but I can't think of what it was. The screen went dark and everybody clapped, and then they were passing out the forms to fill out. Scenes from earlier in the movie have been playing in my head so whatever the last scene was, it's been driven out. If I think of it I'll let you know.


So there`s no scene where Snape (highlight to see the name) pulls up his sleeve and reveals dark mark on his arm?

WarriorKeira, he was there when not Brendan Gleeson revealed that he was not Brendan Gleeson (Professor Moody, I just looked it up), but I don't remember him showing a mark on his arm.


Even though I can't remember the last scene, the atmosphere of the ending seemed dark, like dark times are ahead. They didn't show what became of Voldemort, and I do know enough to know there are 3 more books, so I assume Harry's in for a lot more problems in the future. It certainly didn't end on a light note, other than Hermione reading the riot act to Ron about just coming out and asking her to a dance rather than waiting until she's been asked by someone else. I don't remember what came after that.


Quote: Originally Posted by cbrownjc
Well the end sounds like it strikes the right note at least IMO.
So how were some of the other actors in the movie like Brendan Gleeson? Did any character make an impression on you more than anyone else?

Brendan Gleeson/Moody made a big impression. The scars on his face and his horrific eye, and just the fact that he taught how to counter dark arts, made you know that his was a deep character who'd been through a LOT. There was one point when he had a run-in with Malfoy and turned Malfoy into a ferret. He said something like "I could tell you stories about your father that would curl your hair" (paraphrased) and I thought to myself I WANT TO HEAR THOSE STORIES! One of the reasons why I said I now wanted to read the book was to hopefully learn more about his character. Whatever his story is, I'll bet it'd make a great movie by itself. I want to see this movie day one when it opens not only to see what the final special effects will be like, but to see Moody again. I'm a big fan of Gleeson's anyway (The General is my favorite of his movies) but I didn't even realize it was Gleeson until the middle of the film. I was shocked at myself, because normally I tend to shift for a second when a known actor comes on (oh look, there's Emma Thompson! hey, that's Miranda Richardson!) but I didn't do that with Gleeson, someone I know well.

I take it the Fudge that WarriorKiera mentioned is the guy who was transforming himself into Moody? He was good for the short time he was on-screen. I was impressed with everybody, really. The acting keeps getting better and better I think. Fiennes wasn't there long enough, but his Voldemort was scary in that short time, and I assume the role is much bigger in the upcoming films. The woman who played the teacher of the girl's school was fun. They must have used special effects on her because she was very very tall. Hagrid didn't have much to do besides show Harry the dragons in advance, but he and that teacher seemed to get along famously. I love Michael Gambon as Dumbledore. I was disrespectful by not going to look up names earlier, so I just did it to make sure I got it right. He deserves much better than "not Richard Harris." Maggie Smith didn't have much to do in the movie. Shirley Henderson was back as Moaning Myrtle (what a creepy character, I'm not sure I like her). I'm not sure who else is who, regarding actor and character names. The teacher of the hulking Russian-type students was good, and I wonder if he has a bigger role in upcoming films. I'd like to see him again. I think he was born to play Rasputin, if he hasn't already.


sethsherwood, it's pretty dark, and characters do die. I have never understood the Hollywood rating system, so it's hard to say. I wouldn't be surprised to see it get a PG-13. Then again, what was Azkaban rated? It's about the same level of darkness.


Thanks for the compliments cbrownjc, though you are being kind. I realize I'm coming off kinda retarded. I wish I were a better writer.

The tournament was shocking in that the mom side of me kept thinking HOW CAN THEY PUT THOSE KIDS IN SUCH DANGER?? Not knowing what was coming made me very empathetic toward Harry, because he had no idea either. There were 3 parts, and all 3 came off very well, if too short (though I suppose they probably don't want to release the 4-hour movie I'd prefer). There were minature versions of the dragons when they each reached into a bag to pick which dragon they'd fight. Those were awesome. The only full-sized dragon you saw though, was Harry's, and it was terrifying. Harry didn't fight the dragon so much as hide behind rocks and then fly away on his broom, with the dragon chasing him around the Hogwarts grounds, then thwarting the dragon by a fancy manuver between that cool bridge. That whole scene was exciting. A lot of the special effects weren't done, and much of it was in wire frame. I can't wait to see the real thing. Er, "real" thing. I think it will have just about everybody on the edge of their seats.

The 2nd part was under water, in the lake, and had them looking for something that was precious to them. I was shocked again when I saw what those precious things were!! (is there no government agency regulating these schools?!?) I assume they were the same things that were in the book, so you know what I mean. The mermaid-like creatures who tried to stop the students were in the previews, but were much scarier in the movie. That whole section could have been longer too. I was a bit confused as to how Harry got out of the predicament he was in.

The maze sequence, again too short, was unfinished. I mean, most of the special effects were unfinished. I think it will be awe-inspiring in the final print though. I have a deathly fear of being lost in a maze (silly of course, since it's highly unlikely I'd ever even see a maze big enough to get lost in...it's just one of those weirdass dream fears, like waking up on a ledge over a Grand Canyon-like chasm) so that part of the movie will be excrutiating to me when I see it. Since it was unfinished I wasn't bothered too much. What was shown was exciting though.



Originally Posted by Corleone Azkaban, IMO at least, was really pushing the envelope so to speak for a PG rating. It shoulda received a PG13 rating.
I think Goblet, based on the book and your review, should definitely be a PG13-er.

The more I think about this movie, the more I think it's even darker than Azkaban, so yeah, it'll probably be PG-13.


Originally Posted by Corleone
Isnt there supposed to be a Sphinx somewhere in thi s movie?

A Sphinx like the ones in Egypt?? I didn't see anything like that.


Originally Posted by Corleone
Like a half human half lion thing.
I *swear* there was one in the book. He had to solve a riddle for it...
No?
Hmmm. Weird.

I don't remember anything like that, sorry.

I'm going to bed now. I don't know if I'll remember more or less when I wake up. It's funny, the night before, I saw the stage production of The Lion King for the first time (god I adore Julie Taymore, but damn, those non-African songs suck) so to have 2 nights in a row with weird, bizarre and wonderful visuals is taxing on my brain. You say half human half lion and all I can think of are those Lion King people. They were not in the Harry Potter movie.


Originally Posted by WarriorKeira
Can you tell me if certain regular character reveals his Dark Mark (face of a ghoul) to Fudge, Dumbledore, Harry and some other people at the end? I`ll be very pissed off it that scene didn`t make it in the movie.

WarriorKeira, I don't think you have to be pissed off. I think it *was* shown. I woke up thinking about a scene in Moody's office near the very end, someone's arm, with a creepy tatoo, and the tatoo was moving and shifting. You have to understand that so much was happening at that time and my mind was preoccupied, thinking it was over after the graveyard, then it not being over, then coping with the terrible thought that Moody was going to turn out to be a bad guy, then Dumbledore, Miss Brodie and Snape rushing in...What's happening? What are they doing? What just happened? What's next? Who's that? Where's the real Moody? Just racing back and forth. The movie is packed with so many little (and big) details that it's not easy for me to remember. I think it was him though.



Originally Posted by MsLibby What did they show of the Quidditch world cup? Did we get to see Krum (the Russian like guy) playing in it? Or maybe the dancing Leprechauns?

They showed the beginning of the world cup, with players being introduced. That was the first you saw of Krum, yes, flying out on his broom. They talked of him being the best seeker(?) in the world. I do apologise for my being so casual with names. I'll call him Krum from now on. I don't remember dancing Leprechauns, but there was mention of an Irish team, and they conjured up colored clouds in the shape of a giant leprechaun after they flew out into the stadium. Very little of the game was shown. I don't remember anything after it being declared open and the headmaster waved his wand and out of the end of it came a flying red ball. The next scenes I remember are in the tent with everybody talking, then after they're asleep, Ron's father waking them up and all hell is breaking loose outside, with the tent village being destroyed.


There was a very funny scene, was it in the book? where Ron's brothers are going to try and put their names (written on pieces of paper) into the goblet of fire to try and get into the tournament. There's an "age" ring on the floor around the goblet. Hermione says it was put there by Dumbledore so he would know if anyone under 17 tried to put their names in the goblet. They both drink a potion to try and thwart the age ring. They get through it alright and put the pieces of paper in, but the goblet spits them out, then Ron's brohters turn into little old men.

Other random details, not in any particular order: Ron's mother sends him a package, an outfit to wear at the dance. It's an old worn coat with frills and lace. Ron is mortified.

On the train to Hogwarts, Harry tries to pay for something that Ron wants from the candy lady, but Ron refuses. You can tell he's very proud.

Harry wears the cloak of invisibility when Hagrid takes him to see the dragons.

Herminone is drop-dead gorgeous in her dance outfit. She's going to be a heartbreaker. It's obvious that Ron does have a thing for her, but doesn't want to admit it.

After Harry is chosen for the tournament, the kids all wear "Potter Stinks" buttons. Very mean, surprisingly mean. I was shocked that Ron and the other kids didn't believe Harry when he said he didn't put his name in the goblet of fire. It's not like he's a known liar, or am I not remembering something from one of the earlier movies?

I just did a Yahoo images search to find out the name of a character, Neville Longbottom. Neville had some very good scenes. First he was a victim of one of Professor Moody's spells (a spooky scene, not a funny one), then he had a charming scene where he was teaching himself to dance, then it looked like he was having a blast at the ball. I really liked him. When I go back and watch the other movies again, which is something I'm planning to do, I'm going to pay special attention to his character now.

Speaking of watching the other movies again, I have been pouring over the cast lists trying to put names to faces (why oh why don't all actors put their images up on IMDB?? ARGH!) and I noticed that Fudge is in the previous 2 movies. I didn't see his name in the first movie's credits. Shows how much attention to other characters I've been paying...not much. I must have sounded like a real dumbass when I said I didn't know who Fudge was, since this is like only the *3rd* movie in a row he's been the same character in. Well, I warned that I was far from the ideal person to have seen a test/sneak screening.


Originally Posted by MsLibby
That's interesting. I read somewhere that the World Cup scenes had been filmed but had been cut from the movie. The Weaslies (not the kids, the parents) had also supposedly been cut.
So now they are back in the movie!

I love Julie Walters (Educating Rita is a favorite film) and she was not in the film. The rest of the family was, but not her.

There were no Dursleys in the film either. I don't remember the very first scene, but it all pretty much started with Mr. Weasley urging Harry to come on, come with them, and they climb a hill and take hold of an old boot, and then they're transported to the world cup.

"they're" being Mr. Weasley, Ron, Ron's brothers, Ron's sister, and Hermione. And Harry, of course.



Originally Posted by MsLibby Aren't the twins 17 already? ...hmm..I thought they were.

They sure looked it, so it surprised me when they had to sneak to try and get in the tournament.


Holy shit! 1,734 Views?? Now I'm very embarrassed about my early posts, and I'm wishing I'd taken the time to go look up names instead of using snarky-sounding names like Miss Brodie. I didn't mean any of it in a nasty way. I'm not like that. I just want to assure people that I do have more respect for the world of Harry Potter than maybe I came off sounding. My embarrassment almost makes me wish I hadn't posted at all, but not really, just that I'd been a bit more serious in how I wrote. I mainly wanted people to know that one non-book reader (a temporary situation) really enjoyed the movie.


How in the world, in just the time I wrote that last post, did it go from 1,734 Views to almost 4,000??

*faints dead away*


Ah ha! Mystery solved. A link to this thread has been posted on a Harry Potter site, The Leaky Cauldron. *WAVES*

Looking around their site I found a thread from someone else who had been at my screening. Since they're someone in the know, they'd be much better at answering questions if anyone wants to sign up and ask.

Forum posts

(Edited to fix the URL)


Hi all, I'm getting freaked out that my thread is hurting oscarwatch, so I have started posting at the Leaky Cauldron. The thread is in a very odd place though, not under the movie discussion. You can find it here. I hope all the Harry Potter sites are on friendly terms, because I don't want to be accused of favoritism.

I have mucho gigs of bandwidth. I wish I could give some of it to Oscarwatch to make up for the trouble I've caused. It's exciting to be in the center of attention, if a little scary when I think of thousands of eyes on my muggle ass, but I don't want to hurt oscarwatch by posting here anymore. Oh lord I hope The Leaky Cauldron has bandwidth. If not, and anyone has a better suggestion, let me know.


Then again...cbrownjc, the pacing was good, I just wanted more story. I got the impression that the snake attacked the man, but it happened very fast. Whatever attacked, it was a scary scene.

And Artimus, Brazil is my (caps are in order) ALL-TIME FAVORITE FILM. Bar none, since the day I first saw it, and I adore The Iron Giant beyond all reason (saw it about 10 times in the theater). No, I haven't read the book, and I can't say that since you have you'll enjoy the movie. You may well hate it. What it is not though, is boring, unimaginative and downright pathetic. I still liked Prizoner of Azkaban best, and if you thought that was boring, unimaginative and pathetic, we have no common frame of reference. If you thought it was the best of the first 3 films, then, you may like this because it's very similar in tone, look and feel.

Ok, now I'm done.





The Leaky Cauldron thread

(These times aren't my real time, they're board times)

July 10 2005,9:13 am

(My formatting while trying to quote was ALL SCREWED UP. I figured it was much easier to read by just bolding questions)

Hi, I hope no one minds me barging in, since I'm an "unfamiliar" (that is, have only read the first book, have seen the previous 3 movies but didn't pay enough attention to characters other than the main ones) but I'm the Equipoise who posted at Oscarwatch. Since by now over 8000 people have viewed the thread (yikes!) I thought I should come here and say hi personally.

I hope I didn't come off as being too disrespectful in that thread, not knowing character's names and not taking the time to go look them up. I really didn't mean to be disrespectful, I was just lazy.

Obviously msmapper is the go-to person for in-depth questions and the person to listen to regarding the book as a movie, but until she comes back I can answer a few questions. Since you've all read the books I won't worry about spoiling (and assuming that those who don't want to be spoiled for the movie won't read this deep into the thread), and ask your forgiveness in advance for sounding like an ignoramus. Btw, I do fully realize that all of you should have been there instead of me. I'm glad I was there, but all of you deserved to be there too. At least you know I was into it and enjoyed it completely. Test screenings/sneaks of good movies are so wasted when the person doesn't appreciate the gift they've been given.

Being ignorant and not having the best memory in the world is likely to frustrate the heck out of a lot of people. I apologise in advance.

I'm going to cut and paste the questions and posters' names. I realize this might be rude, since none of these questions were directed at me. Please no one get mad at me.

scarhead101: May I ask? Was the egg and bathtub scene left in?

Yes, very well done too. The character of Moaning Myrtle helps Harry (she seems to have a huge crush on Harry). The bathroom itself is gorgeous, with a beautiful fountain in the middle.


annephoenix: I was just wondering what scenes Snape got in the film? Is he present a lot?

Not to me he wasn't. Not anywhere near as much as in Azkaban.

annephoenix: Also is the Dark Mark animated or like a standard tatoo?

Those who read that other thread know that I'd forgotten about this, but remembered it after I woke up this morning. The tatoo was definitely animated. I'll leave the question about Cruciatus/Imperius for msmapper. Also Star 69's question about the Priori Incantatem effect.


Escherichia: msmapper, can you tell us more about the overall feel of the film? Is the movie a departure from the other three movies? Is it much scarier and darker? And is the music from Patrick Doyle's score for the film? ... Was Ralph Fiennes evil enough?

Personally I thought it had much more in common with Azkaban than the first two, and the more I think about the movie I think it was at least as dark, and scarier. We were told that the music sountrack was temporary. The answer to the last question is, in my humble opinion, YES. msmapper may have another opinion since she knows how the character is supposed to be portrayed. He gave me chills though. I cut out the question about the trio, since I'd need my memory to be jogged as to who they were. That's one for msmapper.

Escherichia: Is there a pop song included in the Yule Ball scene?

More punk rock than pop. I didn't much care for it, but then, my tastes run toward female singers like Kate Bush, Happy Rhodes, Tori Amos, Charlotte Martin, Noe Venable, Jorane and such like that. I forgot about that scene, but now that it's brought back to mind, I'd say it was my least favorite thing about the movie. But don't mind me, it's just a matter of taste.

Escherichia: How did the film begin - was the Riddle house in it?

Haiyez: Is the opening scene with Voldie and Wormtail still there?

schwinn3: Can you tell us how the movie begins? Since the Dursley's were cut, I'm very interested in how the movie starts.

I'd forgotten about this until I read these questions, but the movie starts with an old man noticing a light in a window. He goes to investigate and listens outside the door. Voldemort, who you don't really see, is in a chair, and (I looked up his name) Peter Pettigrew (Wormtail?) is tending to him. Another character is there. I believe it's the same character who transforms himself into Professor Moody later. A huge snake (I just remembered, we saw the snake at the very very beginning too, slithering through the water) slithers past the old man and telepathically tells Pettigrew the man is there outside the door. You see the man frozen in terror, and the snake coming closer. It's freaky!


Posted: July 10 2005,9:22 am

jls_3887: How was the shippy-ness in the movie? Did Ron and Hermione have a full blown fight at the Yule Ball? Did Hermione kiss Harry on the cheek at the end of the movie, etc. Any hugs or anything?

I had to go look up in the FAQ what shippy-ness meant, now I know. What a sweet word! I wouldn't say a full-blown fight. Hermione was upset. I thought the undercurrents were pretty obvious. At least, the undercurrents to me were that Hermione really liked Ron and wanted him to ask her to the ball but he was too late. Ron had a sort of confused jealousy about him when he realized Hermione was going out with someone else. Herminone let her hurt get the better of her when she raised her voice to Ron, telling him to just ask her. She cried.

I'm pretty sure she kissed Harry on the cheek. It seems they all hugged as they were parting at the end, but maybe I'm thinking that just because it seems like the thing to do. It's one of those things where I can *picture* it in my head, but not necessarily because it actually happened.

More to come. Thank you for your kindness!


Posted: July 10 2005,9:32 am

jls_3887: How was the shippy-ness in the movie? Did Ron and Hermione have a full blown fight at the Yule Ball? Did Hermione kiss Harry on the cheek at the end of the movie, etc. Any hugs or anything?

I had to go look up in the FAQ what shippy-ness meant, now I know. What a sweet word! I wouldn't say a full-blown fight. Hermione was upset. I thought the undercurrents were pretty obvious. At least, the undercurrents to me were that Hermione really liked Ron and wanted him to ask her to the ball but he was too late. Ron had a sort of confused jealousy about him when he realized Hermione was going out with someone else. Herminone let her hurt get the better of her when she raised her voice to Ron, telling him to just ask her. She cried.

I'm pretty sure she kissed Harry on the cheek. It seems they all hugged as they were parting at the end, but maybe I'm thinking that just because it seems like the thing to do. It's one of those things where I can *picture* it in my head, but not necessarily because it actually happened.


shocolate: Harry and Ron making up after the First Task? How cute?

Very cute, but I don't remember Ron apologising to Harry, something he should have done.

shocolate: Is Ron so hot that he dries out the whole lake?

Not just yes, but HELL YES! I so have a crush on Ron now. Actually I've had one since I saw some pictures from an Azkaban premiere. I love long hair on guys, and he's got such soulful eyes. Since I'm way too old to be talking like this, consider it coming from my inner teenager. I don't want to be considered a perv.


iamfez: Was Ginny in it more? Did they leave in the scene where Ron tells her to go to the ball with Harry, and then the R/H fight?

Ginny is Ron's sister? If so, then not much, just a few quick scenes. No, I don't think so. I don't remember a scene where Ron tells her to go to the ball with Harry. For the last, it depends on what you mean by "fight." There was no fisticuffs, they were just estranged for a while. Ron was being a real . He should have known Harry well enough to know that Harry wouldn't lie to him. Well, unless he did in an earlier movie and I have plumb forgotten it.


Slinkhard: Especially the ferret scene - is it as funny as it's cracked up to be?

Yes, I thought it was hilarious. I hate Malfoy (his father is mesmerizing though) so I love it when Hermione smacks him or he gets turned into ferrets.

I'm working as fast as I can. I'm having trouble with the quoting unless I reply to each one individually, which takes up a lot of space. kyrane, your list is a help, but I can't use it directly. I'll just be cutting and pasting from it. I can only post once every 15 minutes too, so that's keeping me checked.

More to come. Be patient.


Posted: July 10 2005,10:21 am

I'm so sorry, I'm running behind because I'm having to do other things as well. I'm trying. Thank you for your thanks and your patience.

Please keep in mind that all of this was new to me (not the main characters and the world, but the situations and scenes), and so much was going on I couldn't possibly remember everything. And of course, they can always re-edit the movie.

Reading back through, there are so many questions I have to skip over, leaving it to the other poster. I don't remember anything about young Slytherins, there was nothing about Voldemort talking about his past (killing his father and grandparents, oh boy, have I been spoiled!), and I'm not sure about Tom Riddle. He does talk when he comes out of the cauldron, but I can't remember what he said. He confronted Malfoy's father, and gave Peter a new hand. It was a while before he even realized Harry was there, trapped on a gravestone by what looked like a stone sword.

baileycat, I don't remember Ginny acting any particular way around Harry. I know you all could pick up on a lot of looks and gestures that I wouldn't. She wasn't around when Harry asked the Asian girl (who I assume is Cho) to the ball.

shocolate, you would have to jog my memory about who Jarvis Cocker is. To my mind, Professor Moody stole the film.

I don't remember Harry and Ron going outside during the ball. There's a scene with them sitting in chairs, bored while everyone else is dancing to the music and having a good time (especially Hermione). The Indian girls they're with are bored to death by Harry and Ron and leave them sitting there.


Ania:1. What about the hospital scene after Harry returned from the graveyard?

Nope, no hospital scene.

Ania:2. And what about the scene in Dumbledore's office, where Sirius should be? How did they explain what was going on all year?

I can't answer this, sorry. The only scene with Sirius is when his face appears in the fire in the common room. What was supposed to be explained? Not a whole lot was explained. I didn't much mind because I knew I would see the movie again and read the book.

Ania:3. Was there any kind of comfort for Harry at all, or just light-hearted scene when Hermione told Ron to invite her next time?

I don't know about comforting Harry. The scene where Herminone confronted Ron wasn't light-hearted at all, not to me. I could feel the hurt and confusion all around.

Ania:4. Was Sirius even more handsome than he was in PoA?

Sirius wasn't shown as himself. His face was made out of fire.

Ania: 5. I've heard there was a scene with Harry, Hermione and Ginny talking near the lake. What was that about?

I don't remember this.

Ania: 6. That the heck was the curse fake!Moody used on Neville, 'cause I just can't remember that :/

It had something to do with an insect, kind of a grasshopper-like thing, only bigger. At first the sequence was funny, with the insect jumping from student to student, then it got very serious. I'm still a bit confused as to what happened, but it deeply affected Neville. He was found after class just staring at a window (not out the window, at the window) and looked very stunned and lost. My heart went out to him.

Ania: 7. How did you like Cho?

She was very cute, but wasn't shown much. Harry smiles at her on the train to Hogwarts. He asks her to the dance but she's already accepted the other student's invitation (the other Hogwarts student who is in the tournament). She was shown a few other times, but in passing.

Ania: 8. Was Hagrid taller this time (I've heard something like that)

I don't think he was taller at all. In fact, he and the teacher of the women's school (I just looked up her name: Madame Maxime) seem to really like each other, and she's WAAAAAAAAAY taller than him so he seemed even shorter than usual.

Ania: 9. What do you think about shipping in this movie? Does Hermione clings to Harry a lot? Do Hermione and Ron have pre-romantic arguments?

Very sweet, no not at all, and just that one, about asking her to the dance.

Ania: 10. What stuck you as very different from the book? What pleased you about things they included?

Oh, well, these questions aren't for me, are they? Ooops.

Ania: 11. How did you like kids' performances? Which one did you like best?

Neville was the one who stood out most. Even the 3 main characters didn't stand out for me as much as Neville, even though they had more to do.

Ania: 12. What do you think about Nevell's job?

I'm blanking out on Neville's job.

More to come, unless and until someone tells me to stop.


Posted: July 10 2005,11:08 am

hg1, is Frank Bryce the other Hogwarts student in the tournament, or the old man? Both were murdered. I already posted about the old man. I don't remember how the student was killed. Too much whooshing information, sights and sounds.

(edit to say I just saw your post about Frank Bryce)

Boy I hope that other poster comes back and can give you all answers that are better than mine.

beep1012: 1. Was Harry topless during the bathroom scene? hehe

Yeppers. Moaning Myrtle seemed to like it too. Harry was definitely worred about keeping the bubbles around him. She said the other student hadn't figured out the egg until the bubbles were all gone.

beep1012: 2. Did Moody put the imperius curse on Harry? Did Harry fight it and how was it shown in the movie? I found this scene funny.

I don't remember this, which isn't to say it didn't happen. What is the imperius curse about?


dblsweetness08: Do you recall the Dursley being MENTIONED? Does anyone ask Harry about his summer or anything? Cause it's important in #5 that he stays at the Dursley's every summer.

I don't remember the Dursleys being mentioned at all, or Harry being asked about his summer.

dblsweetness08: Also, is the Marauders Map featuered (the map that shows hogwarts from #3?),

No, I didn't see it at all, or hear it mentioned. It was one of my favorite things about Azkaban (especially since I think the end credits of that movie are just about the BEST EVER, absolutely delightful!)

dblsweetness08: and also, what all does Sirius talk about in the fire scene?

You're going to hate me, but I really don't remember. My brain is overflowing trying to remember all different kinds of things. I promise that if I remember I'll post. All I can say is that I was in awe at the special effects, and that Ron interrupted the conversation, and when Harry turned back, Sirius was gone.


pattysan: but the kid in real life is not hot, he is cute but not good looking

Oh yeah? I beg to differ.

More coming...


Posted: July 10 2005,11:45 am

Haydens_Angel: Was the ending sad? -- Like with Cedric dieing and all? Did it have an emotional feel to it?

Ok, now I'm realizing that Cedric is the student who died. My god you people are patient and kind! This is like someone coming into a Lord of the Rings thread having seen a sneak preview but knowing nothing and saying "that guy who died with all the arrows sticking in him" or something. I know how important characters are, and getting their names right (even knowing them) is a sign of respect, and I was so unfortunately flippant in the Oscarwatch thread I started. I tried a while ago to get some help from IMDB for who was who, but so many actors don't put up their picture. It would be so easy if I could just click on a name and a picture would come up and then I could say, yes, Cedric, instead of just that other student. You are all so nice.

It was very sad when Harry brought Cedric back. Everyone was cheering and whooping, but Harry was sobbing uncontrollably. Gradually people realized that something was very wrong, and then that Cedric was dead. The whole place fell into a hush. Cedric's father pushed through the crowd and the look on his face was just heartbreaking. Harry was the only one making a sound then, just crying and crying. Professor Moody pulled him away and took him back to his office.

yes, it was very emotional.


sparkle: Equipoise thanks for answering the questions. I'm very interested in this bit though: a snake was slithering through water at the beggining? and barty crouch jnr was in the room in the house?

Yes, and yes, though now I'm having a character confusion moment. I thought the character was someone named Fudge in the oscarwatch thread. I've just used Yahoo Images to get me straight on characters and now I know that David Tennant (my goodness he's cute with longer hair!) is Barty Crouch Jr. Ok, Crouch Jr was in the house at the beginning, yes, in the same room with Peter Pettigrew and Voldemort (before his transformation). I think Crouch Jr. was also the one who used his wand to conjure the huge ghoul face in the sky after the burning of the wizard's tents. He was also the one who was transformed into Professor Moody.

Whew!

Of course, now I don't recognize the character of Fudge, by name or face, and must go back and see what idiocy I wrote in the oscarwatch thread. Later.

Pardon me, I just looked at Tennant's IMDB page. HE'S THE DOCTOR????? WHOOOO! Now I will be sure to never ever forget who he is. See, I'm learning all the time, as we speak!

Sorry, ok, onward...


Posted: July 10 2005,12:58 pm

Haiyez: Is there a scene after Harry leaves the bathroom and gets stuck in the stairs wearing his cloak while Snape, Moody and Filch are near him?

No. The only time Harry use his cloak was when Hagrid took him to see the dragons.


schwinn3: I have one more though. Since the Dursley's aren't in the movie, how do they explain how Harry is with the Weasly's? Ever since it was said that the Dursley's aren't going to be in the movie but the World Cup is, I couldn't understand how they were going to do that. Thanks.

I can't remember any explanation as to why Harry is with Ron's family. I don't believe there was any. It could have been something said very quickly that I missed, but I'm drawing a blank on it. Btw, Ron's mom, Julie Walters, was not in the movie. She was mentioned when Ron got a package from her with his dress robes for the ball. Poor Ron was mortified, because it had lace and frills on it. Everyone else in the family was in the movie, but not her. There was more shown of the Dursleys than there was of the World Cup, which was but a blip.


pattysan: she seems to be a R/Hr shipper and a Rupert fans

Oh, I like Harry a lot too. I don't know who Hermione ends up with. Does anyone, at this point? At the present it seems like Ron, and the tension in their relationship is getting intense, so I've been posting about that. It wouldn't bother me if she and Harry ended up together, as long as Ron found someone nice too. I do like him.


Yann Děnendal: But what about the children ? Are they acting well ?

Hmmm, it seems as if their parts aren't as big in this one, and yes, I'm talking about Harry and Ron and Hermione. That statement could cause an uproar, but I don't know how else to put it. None of them had as much to do as they did in Prisoner of Azkaban. That's my impression anyway. Of course Harry was in the wizard tournament, but even there, he didn't do all that much. Answers to questions and proper actions to take seemd to fall in his lap (though that's been pretty common across the movies). For example, Neville was the one who told him about the ....um, I can't remember the name of it... weed that he chewed and caused him to grow gills and fins and webbed hands for the underwater segment. He didn't really fight the dragon as much as run away from it (though his manuver through the bridge was very clever). He didn't really fight Voldemort that much, because his parents stepped in pretty quickly.

I'm making this sound like a negative, and it's not, it's just a different movie. The action was exciting, very much so, but the moments that stick with me are character moments, such as Harry's fear at what's to come in the tournament, his confusion and anger at Ron's not believing him about him not putting his name in the goblet of fire, his terror but courage at facing Voldemort, his anguish at Cedric's death, the pain from his forehead scar, many other moments. As I write this though, I remember his saving Ron and the little girl in the lake, and saving Cedric's life in the maze, so my account is not to be trusted. I guess what I'm really trying to say is that the human emotional moments are what affect me most, rather than the action, but I take back what I said about Harry not doing all that much.

Hermione and Ron didn't have all that much to do. I stand by that. Their character moments were great though, alone, together, and with Harry.

Malfoy didn't do much except sneer and get turned into a ferret. Oh, and get that insect that Moody had sicced on him like the facehugger in Alien. I loved that.

Call me crazy, but the child character who affected me the most was Neville.

Yann Děnendal: Do we see the camp before the quidditch world cup begins and before the DeathEaters come ?

YES! It was great. It was very funny that the tent looked like a small pup tent from the outside, but looked like huge house from the inside. As Harry said when he stepped inside, "I love magic." Thanks, now I know those things are called DeathEaters.

Yann Děnendal: Do we see all the fans, the wizards trying to dress like muggles ? Percy isn't there ?

Yes, lots of shots of the fans, though most were undone special effects. I didn't see anything about wizards dressing like muggles. I don't know who Percy is. There's no listing for a Percy on the IMDB page.

Yann Děnendal: And what about Charly and Bill, the brothers of Ron ? Are they at the camp with them ?

The twins, the ones who try to get into the tournament, are at the World Cup with Ron, Ron't father, Ron's sister, Hermione and Harry. I don't know anything about brothers named Charly and Bill. They're not on IMDB.

Yann Děnendal: Do we see Charlie with the dragons before the first task ?

He might have been there but I didn't see him/wouldn't know who he is.

Yann Děnendal: You said we see only the Hungarian Horntail in real but can we see well the 3 other dragons in miniature ? Do we know how Cedric Diggorry, Fleur Delacour and Victor Krum fight against their dragon ?

Yes to the first question! The miniature dragons are AWESOME! They looked very real so if the special effects aren't done yet, I can't even imagine how they'll look in the final movie. No to the 2nd question. It's just said that they've successfully fought their dragons.

Yann Děnendal: How is the speeking of the french and the bulgarian peoples ?

I didn't hear any other languages spoken.

Yann Děnendal: Is the capoeira scene with the Durmstrang (bulgarian) guys good ?

I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. What is a capoeira? Maybe it was something that was shown but I didn't catch it because of my ignorance.

Yann Děnendal: Is there only girls in Beaubâton and only boys in Durmstrang ?! this is strange in the trailer we see this !

Ah! Ok, I get it. Krum is one of the Bulgarians/Durmstrang, right? I only saw girls in Madame Maxime's group, and don't remember seeing any girls with the Durmstrang. I haven't seen the trailer since it was released, and don't want to watch it now. Movies are so often very different from their trailers, and I don't want to think I saw something in the movie that was only in the trailer. If the groups were mixed in the trailer, maybe they were, but I didn't see it. The girls especially, were all very girly girls with bonnets and capes and dresses. A boy would have looked very strange among them and I think I would have noticed.

(Yikes, and I said "big hulking Russian-type guy" - how embarassing)

Yann Děnendal: (excuse me if I don't speak english well, I'm french)

Your English is 100% better than my French! Be proud of your wonderful ability, because most Americans, I'm ashamed to say, only speak one language, though many might speak a smattering of another. I can count to 10 in Spanish and German, and that's about it.

I apologise again for being so slow. I'm doing many different things at home and trying to get back here as much as possible. I'm sure several of you are already in bed as I type this. I'm greatful for your thanks and your kindness.


Posted: July 10 2005,2:52 pm

I am so sorry for the delay. I've just not been able to stay at the computer for very long for the last couple of hours. I have certain things I do on Sundays that I can't put off.

Also I got distracted a couple of times when people have sent me links. I need to respond to something in particular. Can anyone tell me how I can post to the Mugglenet News Comments area? When I try, everything filled out correctly, I get a message that my username and email address is not filled out, so I click the Back button, and my comment and everything else is wiped out. Does anyone know if I have to sign up on the site to post, and if so, where? In the forums area? (It's not the Forums I want to reply to). I just have a very quick thing I want to post. My main posts will still be here.

Please someone send me a private message or email me at xenussister@yahoo.com to tell me. The very LAST thing I want to do is start any kind of back and forth between sites. I'm very new to your world and have absolutely ZERO idea of the dynamics or competition or anything like that between you. I just need this info and would prefer no mention of what I post, if anyone here reads there too.

I will get to everyone's question, those I can answer anyway, even if it takes me the next couple of days. I hope it won't take that long


Posted: July 10 2005,5:18 pm

i, I'm talking to FelipeLuvsPotter and he told me to look at what you're doing staywarrior. THANK YOU BOTH!

I am so far behind, trying to do them in order. Right now I'm answering jimmy93211 from way back on page 6. Where did you start your questions staywarrior?


Posted: July 10 2005,5:21 pm

I just saw this: Okay, I think that's it since your last post. Sorry if I missed anyone.

Cool


Posted: July 10 2005,5:37 pm

The molasses train pulls in again...

Nahima: One of my favorite characters is Severus Snape, you have explained earlier that he didn't appear so much on this movie but I would really appreciate if you can remember how many times did he show up?

Only a few times that I remember.

Nahima: POSSIBLE SPOILERS (excuse me, I don't know how to hide this): Snape appears in the Yule Ball, when the false Moody take Harry (to save him alone or with DD?), showing his tattoo and... no more?

Those times, yes. If I think of more I'll post. Snape was with Dumbledore and Professor McGonagall when they went to rescue Harry from Moody.

Nahima: I want to know if there is an scene between Snape and Sirius, this should have appeared near the end of the movie.

I don't remember a scene with the two of them interacting. The only time I remember Sirius being in the movie is when his face appeared in the fireplace.

I am sorry, Nahima and Alyss, that I can't be more specific. My brain is getting more fried as the day wears on (not just from this, this is fun, if frustrating for me because I have a bad memory and for you who have to read this and gnash your teeth). I promise I'll post anything else that comes to me.


jimmy93211: It is cool that you are telling us so much you are either hating it or loving it!

I'm loving it, but even more, I'm loving all your kind remarks when I know I must be frustrating. I really want msmapper to come back and help you guys out more. So many of you have said such nice things and I haven't been able to thank you personally for your thanks and nice words. Please know that I'm appreciating them greatly.

jimmy93211: how did it end was it on the train or on dumbledores speech.?

The end of the film faded away from me shortly after the movie ended, only because there was so much bustle once the lights came up, talking all around me, the announcer talking, the passing out of the reaction forms, filling them out, then there were so many scenes from earlier in the film that kept playing in my head. Believe me, if I remember exactly what the last scenes were, I'll post. I had forgotten how the movie started, and that came back to me.

jimmy93211: Did Ron have Pig?

I don't remember a specific scene, but that's likely the kind of thing that fans would notice right away that might slip by me. Hedwig (thank you felipe) and Sirius's owl were there. Harry sends a messge to Sirius via Hedwig. Sirius's owl (I assume it was Sirius's owl) broght back a message for Harry to meet Sirius in the Gryffindor common room later that evening. Harry's reading the message and puts one hand down and promtly gets bitten by the owl. The last line in the note is "He bites"

jimmy93211: Does moody have an eye patch?

Not an eye patch as we usually think of one. It had straps like an eye patch, but instead of a black piece of cloth, it was a false eye. Most false eyes are static and don't move. Moody's did. It was creepy and fascinating at the same time.

does moody do things thing with the spiders and I also read that when he does the spells on the students he does it on Nevile??

I didn't think it was a spider. I mean, I didn't look at it and say, eiugh, that's a spider! I saw it more as a grasshopper/cricket type insect. But now I doubt. Maybe it was a spider! Without knowing what was going on, I got the impression Moody was putting the spells on the insect, but it was affecting the students. When the insect died, it certainly affected Neville.

Hey...

A kiss on the cheek!! This just now came into my head. Fleur Delacour (I've looked up her name to make sure it was right, with thanks to Felipe to make sure I got which sister was which) gives Harry a kiss on the cheek for saving her sister. Maybe that's the kiss I was thinking about. Oh great, pour a little bit more mud on the question, will I? Anyway, that kiss was certain.


Posted: July 10 2005,6:41 pm

Aseldar: [Did these things happen?] Dumbledore said, "And if ever there should come a time when you have to make the choice between what is right, and what is easy, remember a good young man (paraphrasing) whose only sin was to come across the path of Lord Voldemort. Remember Cedric Diggory" (It was at the goodbye feast, they all raised a goblet to Cedric and said his name aloud...it was beautiful. I'm dying for this to be in the movie. Then Hagrid simply said "What'll come will come, and you'll have to meet it when it does." (That would make a great ending line...I hope it's used)

I'm pretty sure there was a gathering in the great hall with the floating candles. That's where Harry was kissed by Fleur. Dumbledore spoke but I don't remember what he said. I don't remember Hagrid speaking (that's not to say he didn't). That wasn't the end though, because there was a scene of people filing out, the Beuxbaton girls first then the Durmstrang boys.


moonys_autumn: Do we find out why Neville lives with his grandmother in the movie? (it would be in the pensieve scene)

I don't remember anything said about Neville and his grandmother.


HalfBloodPrince: 1. Do they show the entrance of Hogwarts (the castle). Like do they show the front doors and some of the grounds.

No, not in a scene by itself. Students go in and out, but I don't remember a great door where I would say to myself, man, that's a big, cool-assed door! The grounds are shown a lot, especially when Harry is being chased by the dragon (and Harry is flying on his broom, I'm sorry I wasn't clear about that). As far as pure scenery goes though, I remember much more from Azkaban. The biggest ooh ah, I wish I lived there scenery scene was right before the 2nd task (thanks again felipe!) when they showed the lake and moutains in all their glory. *deep intake of breath time*

2. Do they have the part where Hermione captures Rita Skeeter in her Beetle form? (Rita is an animagus so she can turn into a Beetle if you didn't know since u didn't read the book =) )

No Rita as a beetle. She interviewed Harry once, then right before the dragon task, had her photographer photograph Harry and Hermione while they were hugging, to give the wrong impression. Not to get into the ship wars, but my impression was Hermione was worried about Harry strictly as a friend. She hugged him right before Dumbledore came in with the bag of miniature dragons. They didn't realize Rita and the photographer were on the other side of the room. Later, a picture of the two of them hugging appeared on the front page of the Daily Prophet (thanks filipe!).

3. In the bathroom scene, were there many taps that released many different colors of liquids and bubbles? Or was it just clear water?

There were many many taps, in a circle. It was a fantastic sight. I don't remember colored bubbles, but you know, that's something they can easily put in during post production and there are months left to go.

4. And lastly, did they show Harry giving the password to get into the prefects bathroom?

No.

5. Oh wait lastly again haha.... Did the Fat Lady have some lines?

No Fat Lady. Dawn French? No, I love Dawn and didn't see her at all.


Pinky_Powers: Of the Grave Yard scene, when Harry fought Lord Voldemort, did their two wands connect with any kind of numinous beam or thread? I believe that I have read all of your replies thus far and have found no news on this particular detail, if the movie deviated from the book’s account of this moment, then how did Lily and James Potter appear and help Harry?

Those special effects were nowhere near done. They were solid red and green animated drawing lines. I think it will be spectacular when they're done.

I must admit that I didn't think Harry's parents came out of Voldemort's wand as Aseldar says below. To me they just appeared from beside Harry. I wouldn't be too upset though. There's so much to be done to that whole sequence that nothing I say should be taken as gospel.


Aseldar: Oh yeah, did anyone else besides Harry's parents come out of Voldemort's wand? Cedric, Frank Bryce (the old man in the beginning), and Bertha Jorkins should have. (Dunno if Bertha was mentioned in the movie)

I only remember Harry's parents. I don't think Bertha was in the movie.


Mallon5: 1. DIEING TO KNOW: Is Ralph Fienne's performance over-the-top/hammy? Is he kiddy cartoonish evil? Or does he play his performance more seriously? My greatest fear is that Voldemort will end up as some dumb caricature with no depth whatsoever. Is his voice enhanced via computer or any kind've rediciulous thing like that? Or is he, god willing, more "real'?

Not over-the-top. Not hammy. Not kiddy cartoonish evil. Freaking terrifying, is what I'd say!

His voice wasn't manipulated, but again, the whole sequence in the graveyard was far far from finished, so I have no idea how he'll end up. They can change his voice and make his face unrecognizable though, and he'd still be terrifying.

He was terrifyingly real!

2. You mentioned that Harry's parents help him in the graveyard. The fans understand the exposition here, but did the movie make this event clear to you? Did you get what happened to Voldemort's wand? Or was it like "What the heck?!"

Well, more a bit like like what the heck? but I judge nothing, because special effects and doing whatever they have to do to finish the fight scene will help a lot. The gist was perfectly clear. Voldemort was terrifying. Harry was in a really bad spot. One student had already been killed. His parents appeared to help their son. Harry got away. In the end, what more does a person need to know? (don't take that personally. Details always make scenes richer and more interesting. The more you know the deeper the world is to the viewer. I understand that. Which is why I think fans will get a lot out of the scene, and newbies will still understand the gist.)

3. Did Harry and Voldemort's wands magically "lock together" in the graveyard? If so, did this make sense as well? And if so, did the filmmakers get carried away with flashing lights and plasma and that type of junk during this particular scene? One of my pet peeves are these boring "light shows" that so many big budget films include now adays (the climax to the HULK and the patronus climax in POA are examples)

. As I said, the special effects aren't done. I think I'd trust the director and FX guys on this one. Don't fret until you see the

final print. The wands did lock together in a fierce clasp. It made sense to me. Isn't that what dueling magic wands do? I don't mean to alarm anyone, but they locked the way the Ghostbusters laser beams locked. Now, please don't anyone go around saying I said GoF was like Ghostbusters. I'm strictly talking about that effect, which could well change radically under the keyboard's god-like powers.

4. Was the scene where Wormtail chops his arm off graphic? I don't understand how they'll get this type of self mutilation in under the PG rating. Or do you think this movie was aiming for the PG-13 anyway?

It wasn't graphic to me. I only thought he cut his arm until the next scene, where it was clear that his whole hand was gone. Some scenes had his hand back, but that's just a clean-up item in the post production phase. Later, Voldemort magically gave him another hand. Those special effects weren't done yet either.


Posted: July 10 2005,9:10 pm

This is the last one for tonight. I know I'm leaving a lot of people hanging and I'm sorry. I appreciate your appreciation and want to help you out, but I have to go to bed. I'll try to do as many more as I can tomorrow.

You guys are really wonderful, you know that? You are. I have been so impressed by how I've been treated here that I can't describe the joyous warmth I feel for you all. Elsewhere I've been cut to shreds, but for every hurt I sustained in reading nasty comments, you people have made up for it a thousand times over. Believe it. You are fantastic.


mwbashful18: What everyone wants to know is: is Fudge in the movie at all, speaking to Dumbledore, McGonnagall, Snape, or Harry about Voldemort being back or what happened to Harry in the graveyard? Is he in denial about it and doesn't want to believe Dumbledore or anything of that sort?

My brain is officially fried. Thanks to other people's descriptions, I now know who Fudge was in the other movies, but I still don't remember him here. I'm sure he was probably here, but my brain won't let me see it, just like it won't let me see the last scenes.

And most especially, is there any part where the whole school is in the Great Hall (where they eat) with Dumbledore giving a speech about Voldemort returning?

Yes. The more I think about this the more it firms up in my head. I just don't remember the dialogue.

Also, please describe how violent you would consider the scene when Peter Pettigrew cuts off his hand and takes blood from Harry.

As I said, I didn't realize that Petigrew was cutting off his own hand. I thought he was just cutting into it. Violent, but not "oh my god, is he really going to do that??? violent. It was hidden. Then, we see the stump of his arm. That shocked me. Then he cuts Harry's arm, a very nasty cut too. At least he didn't cut his arm off. It looked very painful.

Did they show it in shadow (takes away from the violence level) or did they show Pettigrew actually take the dagger to his hand?

Not even in shadow. Not shown at all.

Does Voldemort torture Harry at all using a curse from his wand? The same goes for Moody/Crouch, Jr. when they are in class. Is Harry put under a curse where he must fight it off (should cause him to be very tired or weak)?

I don't remember anything like any of that.

Really, I think a lot of your questions will be answered when someone who really knows, like msmapper comes back. Oh please let her come back! I don't want you guys to be left hanging.


ChaserGirl: do we see Malfoys date for Ball? is she blonde or black haired? is she pretty?

I don't remember Malfoy having a date at all. I don't actually remember Malfoy at the ball at all.


Kaena: (Too long to quote. See post #157)

I'll have to get back to that.


Mike: You said Dan's crying scene over Cedric was very emotional, was Dan's crying convincing? Did it seem realistic? How was Dan's acting overall in this film?

I only remember Harry crouching over Cedric, not wanting to let him go. His cries were heartwrenching. I cried, and I didn't even know the character, other than he seemed like a very nice guy. I'm always more affected by survivors grief though. I don't cry because Satine died, I cry because Christian loved her so much and his very vocal grief punches in and grabs my heart and soul. So, whatever "actorly" thing Dan did, he did it very well, because I felt almost the same way. Did he cry tears? I don't know, we didn't really see his face.


FreedomStar: What did the Death Eaters (Voldemort's supporters) look like? I keep picturing them as these great hulking, masses in heavy, flapping robes with a 'ghost' mask like you see on kids during Halloween (yes, a very childish view) or one of those white masks that just covers your eyes and nose.

Scary. Very scary. Maybe not as scary as the Azkaban guards (who were terrifyingly scary), but still scary. Long black robes. Strange mask, I think, but I can't describe it. It's faded away. Lots of things are fading away. Maybe tomorrow I'll remember more.


Posted: July 10 2005,9:39 pm

Quote (Aseldar @ July 11 2005,01:25 ) Mark my words Equipoise--JK Rowling knows your name by now or will soon.

Oh great. Will you all take up a collection for my bail if the copyright cops come knocking?

Nah, I have a copy of the pass, and it says nothing about non-disclosure agreement, just not to record or photograph. All day I've gone back and forth, am I doing the right thing? Am I spoiling too much? Am I doing anything besides frustrating the heck out of a bunch of truly nice people who want more details than I can provide? Your responses have helped me know that I've done a bit of good, and if you didn't want to be spoiled, you probably wouldn't be reading this thread. I don't think Rowlings knows or would know my nick, but if, by chance, someone does pass along what I've been doing here, I hope that my affection for the world of Harry Potter that I've gained just from watching the movies, is passed along too. (and the fact that I've decided to yes, READ THE BOOKS so I won't sound like such a doofus should I ever be so lucky again). I respect the creator of such a deep and interesting world and I hope my name, if you're right, doesn't equate to mud in her eyes.

Quote (Aseldar @ July 11 2005,01:25 ) I want your autograph.

HAHA, that's so rich, since I collect autographs (of musicians I'm into). No one has ever asked me for mine.

My "ego wall" is somewhere in here.


Posted: July 10 2005,9:47 pM

pattisan, I didn't want to hurt feelings. It's the only question I was asked that pained me to answer. As a matter of fact, I'm going to edit it out because even the hint of negativity doesn't belong here.

minime, as far as fans seeming nuts, not for a second, and I mean it. My goodness, my husband and I flew to England (from Chicago) to go to a fan convention. Twice! We've traveled to the east coast a couple dozen times to see another singer in person. I've followed tours. Look at that ego wall if you want to see a nutter fangirl.

Believe me, I understand. You are not nuts in my eyes. You care about something. How many people live their lives without caring about anything?


Posted: July 11 2005,10:55 am

Hi all! I'm a night person, and I'd only had 4 hours sleep the night before, so I slept like a rock for 14 hours! No dreams, nothing, just pure sleep. Thank you for your patience. I am committed to staying here and answering every single question, so I haven't abandoned you.

I realize it's late on the other side of the Atlantic, so many of you have been waiting through your whole day and evening. I'm sorry about that. I should have many more done by the time you wake up.

I'm not sure my memory is any better even after so much sleep. I have a terrible fear of saying something that will contradict what one of the other reviewers says (people who know what they're talking about like that review on Mugglenet). Please bear with me and my terrible memory and ignorance and always take the word of someone who knows over anything I might say.

Right now what I have to do is get a handle on where to start. There are so many more and I have to make sure no one's left unanswered. It just might take a while. Somewhere near the end I'll put out a call for any questions I might have missed. At that time it'd be best to give me the post# if possible instead of re-asking.

I'm sure I'll be saying "I don't remember (I don't recall, I have no memory of anything at all)" a LOT, again. Sorry.

Ok, I will go delve now.

Thanks again for all the thanks. I appreciate the appreciation, you have no idea how much.


Posted: July 11 2005,12:55 pm

kyrane, I've downloaded your question list and will use them. The only problem is that the names of the people who asked them aren't listed. I will deal with that, but I just wanted to apologise to questioners in advance, that their names won't be listed with the questions. It was kind of cool when I could answer each person's question with their names. Now it will be more impersonal. Don't think I don't appreciate your hard work though kyrane, I do! I just wanted to let readers know why their names aren't included.

To answer one big question right now: YES! I am going to read the books. In fact, a few months ago my husband and I bought a box set of the 1st 4, so they're already in my house, waiting. I know, I should have picked them up and started reading before now, but better late than never, eh?

Here's some that I cut and pasted from earlier. I had already started working on them so I decided to finish. They're more recent questions, so I don't want anyone who asked questions earlier to think I skipped over them on purpose.


HuffleDung: Do we know what this is a sketch of? Is it part of Hogwarts? Or is it the churchyard in which we see Voldemort return?:
Photo
I just thought i'd throw this out there to see if it actually DID appear in the movie...?

I don't remember seeing that in the movie. Looks great!

Can anyone tell us what is happening in this pic? What they're talking about, When it is (time during the movie/story) etc.?
Photo

I don't remember that scene, sorry.


ImposterMoody: 1. Could you tell that Moody was the bad guy, and/or could you tell it wasn't really him before he was unmasked? Or was it a big surprise that made you go "Ooooh! How clever how they put that together," or was it like "How could I have guessed that!?"

I was shocked. I really liked Moody. When he first came onscreen I wasn't sure what to make of him. I thought, this guy's going to turn out to be a bad guy, but by the end, it wouldn't have crossed my mind that he was a bad guy. I love love love that he wasn't *really* a bad guy, that he was imprisoned and Barty jr had just transformed himself to look like Moody. I was elated.


GracieInGreek: Yes, yes, my ship-preference is obvious. But I, like everyone one else, -was- curious about what Harry and Hermione were arguing about near the...lake, I think it was? I think someone posted a picture of that scene. I'm guessing they were arguing about Ron, but near the end of the snippet we saw, Harry looked a little ashamed of himself. Do you remember at all what the circumstances of the argument/the reasons were?
And, *giggles*, was the part where Ron comes in escorted by his sister and a bunch of girls from asking Fleur to the ball, looking all shell-shocked, funny, in your opinion? Thanks again!

Yes to the last question. That was a funny scene. Regarding the picture by the lake, Ron and Ginny and Hermione had come down to where Harry and (I think) Cedric were. R&G held back and Hermione went up to tell Harry some convoluted thing like someone told someone that someone said that someone told someone who told Ron that Hagrid was looking for Harry. Harry was totally confused, so Hermione went back to Ron to try and get it straight and she went back to Harry and said the same thing. Harry said "Tell Ron..." (Ron was standing right there, after all), and Hermione got mad and said something like "I'M NOT AN OWL!"

GracieInGreek: Did/do you remember Harry and Hermione dancing in the movie, if only for a second?
Oh. And okay--I know you're a bit older and may go "ew!" on this one, but...I think most can agree that Dan is fairly adorable. We know he was topless in the bath-scene with Myrtal. So--seriously, not trying to be pervy, though he's only a year younger than me--how's Dan's upper-body?
...Oh, come on! We -all- wanted to ask, people, you know it. So, more or less...does he look nice without his shirt on. Be honest, no one here is gonna judge you for saying if he is/isn't goodlooking half-naked. I promise.

No to Harry and Hermione dancing. Dan is adorable, but sorry, his torso didn't do anything for me. He looked nice, but I am so not the person to ask if he was sexy. Even Ron, as cute as I think he is, I don't think is sexy. It would be weird if I did, so don't think I'm saying he or Dan wouldn't be sexy to the right age group.

http://www.emmaempire.net/de_emma.php?ewe=galleries&pid=12069&site=2#img

I don't remember that scene of Harry and Hermione dancing. I don't even remember Harry dancing at all. I do remember Hermione dancing with Krum. She was having a great time too. That was during when the punk rock group were playing. Everybody was dancing except Harry, Ron and their bored to tears dates. Hagrid danced with Madame Maxime. I don't remember Snape dancing.


Lady Narcissa: Equipoise, thanks so much for answering all these questions! One more for you. You mentioned Lucius Malfoy (aka Draco's father aka Jason Isaacs) appearing in the graveyard scene. Is he in any other scene in the movie? Maybe in the stands at the World Cup? Or at the campgrounds when the Dark Mark appears in the sky?

I don't remember Lucius at the World Cup, which doesn't mean he wasn't there and I just don't remember. There was a scene where he talks to Harry and Hermione and Ron, but I don't remember when it was or what was said.


Posted: July 11 2005,1:39 pm

Whoo, it's good to know that a book lover is answering questions! I wish they were here.

I was just looking through the gallery because of the links above, and this scene is not in the film:

(picture of Miranda Richardson with Harry and Hermione)


Posted: July 11 2005,2:46 pm

Does Hermione kiss Harry on the cheek at the end like she does in the book? If not, that makes me upset because they show all the Ron/Hemione relationship evidence but cut all the good Harry/Hermione stuff. *sighs* Hermione didn't even really hold Ron's hand in the third book, but Hermione does actually kiss Harry.
do we see much Hagrid ? do we learn he is half giant ?

I wish I could say more than "I don't remember" but I really don't. I remembered a kiss on the cheek, but now I'm sure I'm remembering the kiss that Fleur gave Harry.

Voldemort
You say that he had lots of green dots on his face.
but was his face normal (for adding special effects later) or did he have like red snake eyes, flat nose, white skin. Like were the dots just to like move bits of his face or actually add features do you think? basically what did he look like? does Voldemort have hands with long fingers etc... that look like spiders?

Ralph Fiennes looked completely normal, except that his head was bald and he had green dots on his face. No other prosthetics were used. Voldemort's whole look will be done in CGI it seems. People should be prepared for something amazing. Fiennes was terrifying without anything extra, so I can't even imagine what he'll be like once they're done with his looks. Don't take the younger ones!

In the scene, where Barty Crouch (played by Roger Lloyd-Pack, one of the judges of the Tournament) condems his son to Azkaban, is there a woman among the convicts?

I didn't see any (which of course, means nothing. In every scene, there is so much to see and my eyes always zero in on the main action, which is how the filmmakers want it. Fans will notice TONS more than what I did).

How was Snape (Alan Rickman) in this? Were there any references to his shady past?

No references that I remember. Alan Rickman is a god. There's never enough Alan Rickman for me. I just love looking at him.

Oh, and did they show the band that played at the ball? I do hope guitarist extraordinaire Jonny Greenwood got some screentime.

All the band members got screen time. Multiple times. They looked very goth.

This sounds so cool, were there many out door scenes? Did we get to see the hillside down to Hagrid's Hut we saw in POA???

More outdoor scenes than indoor scenes, it seemed to me. I don't remember seeing Hagrid's place though.

What about Hogwarts scenery do we see more of the grounds???

Yes, though I don't know what we saw that was never shown before. Except the arena where the dragon fights were held. I hadn't seen that before. It was perched up on a high hill (I thought, how do people get up there? They must fly). The arena seemed very small though. I can't imagine even a fraction of the school would fit in there.

Do we see more of Hogwarts? Its corridor's, Classrooms, Grounds etc...?

Not really that I remember. Moody's classroom and office was new of course. The staircase where Neville is found spaced out.

Were there good Ron and Hermione moments?

I loved the moment that I already described at the lake. That was wonderful.

1. Were there house-elves in this movie and did they have a size-able part?? (short midgety, thin little guys)

No, I didn't see a one.

2. In the Pensieve scene (when Harry is looking in the "cauldron" and sees a trial) is there only one trial or are many shown? And in this scene is Neville's backstory revealed?

No to Neville. Only one trial, and it was pretty short.

Please tell me that Dan has improved his crying

I answered this. It affected me just by the sound of his anguish. He was heartbroken. He'd saved Cedric's life once, but couldn't do it again.

Btw, Harry hesitated when he saved Cedric's life the first time, looking back and forth from Cedric to the crystal goblet (what is the name of that?). Cedric said something like for a moment there I didn't think you'd come back, and Harry says something like me neither. It was all well-done. You actually wondered there for a moment if Harry was going to go back for Cedric.

What about Hagrid's Blast ended Skrewts, the creatures they were working with in his care of magical creatures class? were they in there? and were they in the maze?

I didn't see them at all.

Oh, and at the end, did Harry give Fred and George (The Twins) the prizemoney (1000 galleons) for winning the tournament?

Not that I remember. (just out of curiousity, why would he?)

1.- With whom did Hermione dance? Did she dance with Harry?

I don't remember her dancing with Harry. She danced a lot with Krum.

2.- How went the whole story about Rita reporting that Harry and Hermione date?

Hermione picked up the paper and there was a moving image of them embracing, then looking at the photographer in surprise. I forget what she said, but she wasn't very happy.

Btw, may I just say now that I LOVE how the images move in the newspaper and wanted posters. That's so cool.

3.- What was the reaction of Harry and Ron when Hermione showed up all pretty in the Ball?

They looked at her in astonishment. She was beautiful.

4.- Did you see any jealousy from Hermione toward Fleur? How do you interpret it if so.

I don't remember any jealousy from Hermione at any time.

We were wondering if you could tell us about the graveyard/Voldemort scene? Does Harry get tortured or hurt in any way, whether by a spell or physical abuse? Does he look scared??

Harry does get hurt when Pettigrew cuts him arm. His forehead hurts badly. There might have been more but it all went so quickly.

And about this whole sobbing thing- is it whimpy sobbing like the "sirius scene" in PoA? Or is he like kneeling down over Cedric's body truly sobbing his heart out??? Just wondering...

Not whimpy. Not kneeling either. He was down on the floor, holding on to Cedric as if his life depended on it. They had to pull him off Cedric's body. He was in anguish. It was very affecting, to me anyway.

I was wondering if you could tell us a bit about the Durmstrang headmaster, Karkaroff. In what direction did the studio decide to go with his costuming? What did you think of the actor's performance?

OOH HE WAS COOL! I loved him and want to see him again. I don't understand though, how in one scene he's in shackles inside a prison container, naming names in front of judges, and then he's a teacher. Huh? Nothing about that was explained. The actor was great. He was mesmerizing. I thought, this guy has to play Rasputin, if he hasn't already. If he and Lucius ever faced off, I think my head would explode in intensity. As far as costuming, kind of gyspy-like.


Posted: July 11 2005,3:27 pm

Is there…
Chemistry between...
Harry and Hermione?

Yes

Hermione and Ron?

Yes

Harry and Ginny?

I don't remember them interacting

Harry and Cho(Asian Girl)?

Yes

Cho and Cedric (the guy who died)?

I guess, but we don't really see them interacting, just together

Draco and Hermione?

I'd say no because I don't even remember them interacting closely. Maybe right before Moody turned Draco into a ferret, but I don't remember the circumstances.

And I am such a girly girl , but what were the girls and draco wearing at the Yule ball... In particular... Ginny?
Pansy?
Cho?
Draco?

It seemed like all the boys had on fancy black waistcoats (except Ron, who had on the outfit his mother sent). Harry looked very dashing. I don't remember anything specific about the Draco or the girls, but they all looked very pretty. Well, Draco didn't look pretty. He always looks like he needs to be turned into a ferret.

Could you describe to us what Voldemort looked like after he came out of the cauldron? (In the graveyard)

Scary! Naked. Big. Terrifying. Bald. Green-dotted.

1. Did Viktor Krum (Hermione's date to the ball) ever confront Harry about whether there was anything going on between Harry and Hermione?

No.

2. Does Hermione teach Harry the "accio" spell? (The spell he uses to summon things, like his broom, and the triwizard cup to get him out of the graveyard)

No, not that I remember.

The only spell for the tasks (that I remember, which is a phrase that should be in giant letters at the beginning of every one of my posts) had to do with the weed that Neville tells Harry about in the library (that's a really cool library!) I was a bit shocked that more magic wasn't used. Isn't that the point of a wizard tournament, to see who can use spells the best?

I just remembered that Snape confronts Harry, thinking Harry stole the weed from his office. Another Snape scene.

3. In some behind-the-scenes footage, they showed Harry and Hermione arguing with each other (but there was no sound). They never argued in the book... so what were they arguing about?

That had to have been the lake scene I described earlier.

4. Have you seen the teaser trailer? There's a part where Hermione is in the crowd and she screams, "HARRY!" It's quite a dramatic yell. Many are trying to figure out what part of the movie that could be in. We think it may be when Harry's fighting the dragon OR when Harry comes back from the graveyard. Any input?

I haven't seen the teaser trailer since it came out. I've avoided watching it to keep my memory with what I saw. Since my memory is fading fast, I'll have to re-watch it. It might jog my memory. That scene was the dragon fight though.

5. Do Hermione and Cho ever interact? (they don't in the book, which is why I'm wondering if they do in the film and if so, how it goes)

No.

6. Emma Watson (the actress who plays Hermione) has said that this film features a lot of Hermione worrying about Harry and his safety. Overall, how would you describe the interactions/relationship between Harry and Hermione in the fourth film?

Very sweet, except when she's mad at being made an owl proxy at the lake. Right before Harry fights the dragon, she's on one side of the tent and Harry's on the other. She calls to him and they talk for a bit, not seeing each other because of the tent, then she finds the opening and goes in and hugs Harry. You can tell she's really, seriously worried about him.

1.)I would like to know, when Harry looked into Dumbledore`s pensieve (the cauldron thing you mentioned) was there a woman, and if so, in your own words, how did she act like?

Again, I don't remember anything like that, but that means nothing.

2.)Has Dan`s crying-acting improved in the scene that you mentioned with him holding Cedric?

Yes.

3.)Does Karkaroff have any scenes with Snape?

I don't think so. You can bet that I'll be looking for one when the movie comes out.

4.)Are there any classes being shown (other than defense against the dark arts) in the movie?

I don't think so (ooh, a new variation on I don't remember!)

5.)Was there good dancing in the Yule Ball scene?

Well, it was just regular dancing, nothing that made me go "Man, look at them dance!" Let's just say that this wasn't Strictly Ballroom or Mad Hot Ballroom. It was just normal kids dancing, nothing wrong with that. It was more realistic.

6.)How was the acting of krum(the bulgarian from Durmstrang), Fleur(the pretty french girl from the Beauxbatons), and Cedric(the other triwizard champion)?

All good, but none of them had big scenes. Cedric more than the others, since he tells Harry about the bath, and almost gets killed and then does get killed.

Fleur was a blip. She didn't stand out at all except when the camera was right on her. She did kiss Harry though.

7.)Was there any mentioning of veelas in the movie?

I don't think so. What are veelas?

8.) How was Ron and Harry`s reaction to seeing Hermione looking stunning at the Yule Ball?

Stunned.

9.)Please explain further about the grasshopper thing that fake!Moody put on Neville?

Well, now I'm all confused. I didn't think it was a spider, but it was an odd creature. It wasn't a grasshopper, that just just the closest thing I could think of to describe it. Maybe it was a new creature they came up with that crossed a spider and a grasshopper. I don't know, but you can bet I'll be looking at it closely when I see the movie again. I'll probably look at it and say to myself, you dork, it WAS a spider! It's just that, I have a terrible fear of spiders, and Potter has used a lot of them, and they always freak me out. It wasn't as if this thing came out and I said, YIKES, ANOTHER SPIDER! which I could see myself doing if in fact it were a spider.

Does Voldemort's corpse rise out of his tomb??? In the lego toys there is a grave for tom riddle. Weird.

Not a tomb, he rose out of a cauldron. The Tom Riddle grave is what I think Harry was trapped on.

At the quiditch world cup, are there any Macots (veelas and leperchauns)??

I only remember the leprechaun in the sky.

Now for my next questions: 1.Was Ludo Bagman in the film? (Was there a character who loved betting?)

No, not that I remember.

2. How many trials were shown in the Pensieve scene?

1

1: ok, now for one of those minute detials: do you happen to remember if Harry/Ron/hermione go for a walk (or whatever) before the quiditch world cup match, and come across the guy wearing the womans nightdress? He's being begged by a ministry official to put on trousers, and his reply is just so funny in the book, I'd love to know if it made the film.

No.

2: Is there much talk about the Leprechaun gold? Ron repays Harry in Leprechaun gold, not realizing it vanishes after a few hours, then he gets all mad that Harry didnt say anything about it. In the book, it's a good scene, in that it demonstrates Rons jealousy over Harry's wealth.

No scene like that. I never got the feeling that Ron was jealous over Harry's wealth. The only time it came up was when Harry tried to pay for something Ron wanted from the candy lady on the train, and Ron said no no, he didn't want it.

3: is there much/anything about the twins trying to "blackmail" Bagman over their wager at the world cup? that reminds me about Bagman!!! Oh I do hope that they kept his character in the movie!!!!!

I don't remember a scene regarding betting.

I have to go to the store before it closes and fix dinner. I'll be back later.


Posted: July 11 2005,7:45 pm

This is the end of kyrane's list. I'll be gathering up those questons that came after it.

runaroundkid and Emma06, thanks for the answers!

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Ok, here you go...

I also remember one little itsy-bitsy question: Who did they show dancing in the movie? Did they show Draco and Pansy(and if so, what were they wearing cuz in the book they said that Draco looked like a vicar(priest) That i would like to see)! Also, did they show Hagrid, Fred and Angelina, Neville and Ginny, Cedric and Cho, and Hagrid and Madame Maxime, and Moody dancing? As well, did they explain that Hagrid and Madame Maxime are half-giants,(even though Madame Maxime denies it!!)

They didn't explain about Hagrid and Madame Maxine being half-giants, but they really liked each other. Lots of people were shown dancing, but I only really remember Hermione and Krum, because they were having such a good time. Who's Fred and Angelina? Neville danced, but I can't remember with who. Was it Ginny in the book? The scene earlier where Neville was teaching himself to dance was dead sweet. Ron and Harry watched him for a while, but didn't break in on him. He never knew they were there. Neville had a tremendous time at the ball...later in the evening Harry wakes up and hears creaks. It's scary until you see Neville, just getting in. I don't remember Cedric and Cho dancing, but they probably did show it. Everyone danced except Ron and Harry and their unfortunate dates, until someone asked Harry's date to dance and she happily accepted. Then the other one stomps off. In that scene, the tables and chairs were *completely* empty because everyone was on the dance floor. All except those 4.

What is the reveal of Hogwarts like (when the students first arive)? or was that special effect not yet finished?

Lots of scenes showing Hogwarts weren't finished. I can't remember what the first reveal was. I'm awfully sorry, but when I try to think of it, I can only think of the scene in the first movie, which was spectacular.

While I'm on the subject, those who read the oscarwatch thread will have read that I said, about the first 2 movies, that I thought they were just "alright." I thought more of them that that. The 1st one's content pretty much blew my mind. I loved that world, and every scene had wonderful things in it. I saw it 2-3 times in the theater, and read the book right away. It just didn't stick with me, I didn't keep up with it, and I regret that. It would have been nice to be up to date when I saw GoF. It certainly would have helped you guys!

Now for my oh-my-god-they'll-hate-me-now! admission. I saw Chamber of Secrets twice in the theater, and fell asleep both times. Now, please know that I don't say that in a nasty way like you would hear at AICN ("man, that movie sucked so bad I fell asleep!") because that's not the case. The job I was working at the time caused me to get up very very early, and when I went to see it, I was sooooo tired, I couldn't keep my eyes open. Had nothing to do with the quality of the movie. I was so mad at myself! I went to see it again, and the same thing happened! Again, NOTHING to do with the quality of the movie. That was a bad time for me to go be seeing movies, because it happened at a few other movies too. I always meant to see it again, and never did. Please don't hate me!

When Prisoner of Azkaban came out, I saw it the first day it opened, and saw it a few more times after that. By that time I really wanted to read the books, so we bought that box set. I just haven't found the time to read them. Shame on me. As far as why I hadn't read them before, fiction isn't usually my thing. The only fiction books I've read in the last 10 years are the LOTR books, after Fellowship came out, and a few Stephen King books. I devour non-fiction and those take up my reading time.

Anyway, that explanation will explain this next answer...

Also, Does Myrtle mention any of the events from COS? Does she say "why haven't you come to visit me?" or anything like that?

She talks to Harry for quite a while, so much was said, but I don't remember what, or if any references to CoS was in there. (you see, I don't even remember Myrtle from CoS)

I WILL READ THE BOOKS, HONEST! And I will go back and watch the 1st 2 movies again. In fact, I'll do a marathon (I love movie marathons) with all 3 sometime between now and the 4th movie's release.

And, Does Dumbledore mention gathering a group of wizards together in the end? Something about "the old crowd"?

Sorry, I don't remember.

Are the events of any of the previous film discussed?

I don't think so.

Is it mentioned that Cedric beat Harry at quidditch or that he played quidditch?

I think so, yes.

I'm an adult fan, and while I'm definitely interested in Ron, Hermione and Harry, I'm also very interested in the portrayal of the adult characters. If I have any critique of the movies thus far, it is that they sacrifice the adults' stories in favor of the students'. Coming away from the screening, do you feel as if you learned anything more about the adults and how they factor into the overall story?

Not really. I wanted to know more about Moody's character. Please, please, someone tell me the book goes into more detail about his background!

For example, does it seem that Harry and Sirius have developed a godson/godfather relationship?

I didn't get that impression. Just friends, and Sirius wanted to warn Harry.

Did the movie leave you wondering about Snape's past at all, or was the revealing of the Dark Mark tattoo just a side-note?

I've always wondered about Snape's past. I had forgotten the revealing of the Dark Mark, but my memory was jogged and it was there. I didn't know its signifigance though. It was a cool effect.

Was there any indication of Dumbledore directing Sirius and Snape to put aside old grudges since they're going to have to work together, now?

No.

Is the scene in the forest where fake Moody's father shows up in the movie?

Yes, dead.

On that note, may I ask about Ginny? You said she was in about three scenes, and I'm curious as to how many lines she had, because in the last movie she only had one.

I don't remember her saying anything, but that's not to say she doesn't. If I think of something I'll post.

I just have a question about house elves. Are they in the movie at all or is there any mention of them?

No, I didn't see any. There might have been some on the sidelines or just passing that fans would see right away, but I don't remember any scene specifically featuring house elfs.

1) What type of rating do you think the movie would be getting, do you think it would pull a pg-13 rating?

I wouldn't be surprised at a PG-13 just because it's so dark. In the oscarwatch thread I was told that Azkaban was pushing a PG rating. Considering that Voldemort is going to be way scary when he's done, and someone does die, I'll bet it's PG-13.

2) In the Graveyard scene does Wormtail (petter) cut off his hand, and then has it later replaced by Voldormort by a silver hand?

Yes and yes.

3) During a defence against the dark arts class does Moody show off all 3 curses to the class on some spiders?

Yes. I've already said that I'm not sure if it's a spider. It didn't seem like a spider to me, but maybe it was just a weird species of spider. I've already said that I have a fear of spiders. This creature jumps on student's heads and attaches itself to Malfoy like an Alien facehugger. I wasn't freaked at those scenes, they were kind of funny (until it dies on Neville's desk and affects him, then it turned very serious). I think I would have been ready to run out of the theater if it had been a "that's DEFINITELY a spider!!" type spider. Maybe they all figured that there were just too many spiders at Hogwarts from the earlier movies, and decided to make something a bit different. I don't know. Then again, maybe I'm nuts. That's certainly a possibility.

4) You probably wont remember this cause it is a one line thing, but does Dumbledore mention anything during the bale scene about a Room of requirement where he found some nice chamber pots in at one point (deals hugely with the 5th book)

Nope, I have no idea what you're talking about, sorry. What's the bale scene?

I am curious, you said that Harry was running from the dragon...did he not have his broom?????

When he was in the arena, he was running around, hiding behind rocks. Then he got his broom (I'm blanking on how he got it) and flew away, with the dragon chasing after him. So yes, he did have his broom. I wasn't clear about that before, sorry.

1.) Is there some sort of explanation of Voldemort's clever plan to place Crouch Jr. (the guy who was at the end, who looked like Mad-Eye Moody) at Hogwarts, how he had Crouch Jr. as Moody enter Harry in the Tournament ect.?

No, not that I recall.

2.) Is there a scene where Harry is (how to put this....) seeing what Voldemort is seeing? (In the book, there is a scene where Frank Bryce [the old man] is killed, Harry sees all of this, even though he is not there. And again in Trelawny's classroom) This is essential to the plot of the next book. Is it in the fourth movie?

Harry does have a couple of dreams where he sees Barty Jr, Pettigrew and Voldemort in the old house. I had forgotten that Harry woke from a dream after the snake killed the old man). Trelawny wasn't in the movie. (Emma Thompson, right?)

3.) You already confirmed no hospital scene. Is there a scene where Dumbledore forces Harry to tell him everything about what happened on the night of the third task? At the part where you see who is Imposter!Moody, is there a potion given to the Imposter? A potion perhaps called Veritaserum?

No on the first question, I don't recall Dumbledore forcing Harry to talk. Yes to the 2nd. If I remember right, Snape forces not Moody to drink something, then a violent transformation takes place where Barty Jr is revealed. I wouldn't know the name of the potion.

4.) Does the movie partially focused on the devoloping relationships and teenage-ery moments? Did it seem that the film was targeted at a certain age group? Were the directors trying to make the characters seem more like modern teenagers?

I think they did try to develop the relationships of everybody. (boy, is that an unsatisfying answer or what??)

I didn't get the feeling that the film was targeting any specific age group. It was just telling a story. Good movies don't have to just appeal to one or two age groups.

No to the last question. Harry, Ron and Hermione could never ever be like modern teenagers. I didn't feel like the writers were trying to "update" them at all. Well, except for the music at the dance. I think they'll regret that choice in years to come. I don't just say that because I'm an old poot, compared to most of you, and it's not my type of music. Not to make fans of the group mad, but the whole thing about the Harry Potter world is that it's supposed to be timeless. Things that "date" the movie are bad, unless it's in the "real" world, like at the Dursleys. That's what I think, anyway.

5.) Did it FOCUS on the tournament, and Harry's extreme procrastination in getting the needed information on the tasks?

The tourney wasn't as, I don't know, as "focused" as I would have expected. The events were important but didn't *feel* important to me, until they actually started, and then they were, to my mind, too short. I can't explain that better, sorry.

Harry's procrastination was HUGE. I kept wanting to jump into the movie and shake the boy ("WHAT ARE YOU DOING?? YOU SHOULD GET BUSY!!")

6.) Did you get the interaction between Sirius and Harry? Do you get some sort of an idea Sirius is a lovable, loyal friend of Harry who is in touch with his inner child? I know you said he was only in CGI format in the fire, but was there letters, notes, telepathy - something to get you attached to Sirius???? What about Cedric (the other Hogwarts student in the tournament)? Is it a painful shock when he is killed?

The only notes regarding Sirius were the back and forth notes that the owls send and brought. I got the idea that Sirius was a loyal friend. I didn't get a lovable or inner child thing. So I guess, no, there wasn't really anything to get you attached to Sirius, just thankful that he could help Harry in some way.

Cedric you didn't really get to know. He seemed like a really nice guy, stalwart and friendly. It was nice of him to help Harry. Still, there was an aura because I did feel a shock when he died, especially since Harry had just saved him.

7.) What is Harry's attidude at the end of the movie? After witnessing Cedric's death, Canon!Harry shuts himself away from the outside world. He talks only to Ron and Hermione, and they don't even talk about the events of the last task. Does this happen in the movie, or does it just end without any insight on Harry's emotions of the graveyard sequence?

I don't really remember details, sorry. He seemed distant, and very sad. Older. Poor guy.

8.) Is there any talk of Dumbledore's plan now that Voldemort is back? How Dumbledore is handling this situation by himself - sending off Hagrid and Madame Maxime (Giant Woman) to make friends with the giants, Snape to go spy on Voldemort, and Sirius to go get Lupin and restart the Order of the Phoenix (A group against Voldemort)?

Wow, no, but all that sounds really interesting!

In the movie do they show the Leaving Feast or is it left out? Because thats when Dumbledore tells the whole school and guests about Voldemort's return.

There is a gathering in the great hall, and Dumbledore speaks.

To help some people out who were asking about the voldemort thing with those dots on his face, I work in movie cg/special effects (im a compositor) so if I know what unfinished scenes look like (by description) I can probably help out with what there end result will be. Like those dots, there tracking markers, if I know where the dots are, I can tell you what features will probably be taken from them (if theres dots or circles around the eyes/eye area then we will obviously get the snake eyes) but if all the features as in cheekbones ect, key spots we can expect the face to be morphed into another shape, the hands we probably wouldnt see anything at all they would just be cg added later, IF any of the house elves are in it, they would probably just be orange balls (or a diff color ball on a stick) that harry (or one of the other characters) were interacting with

I don't remember any balls, or the characters talking to someone who wasn't there. It's possible they left those scenes out of this cut because they would just be too weird.

Also you said that the part where Moody/Crouch Jr had the grasshoppers that effected the kids, were they grasshoppers or spiders? (book uses spiders, i find it an odd thing to change to, but considering rupert really does have a fear of spiders, maybe they were being nice lol) the one under the impirius curse should tapdance, im guessing that would be later, cruciatus would have been the one that effected longbottom the most, twisting/convulsing lil spider as if every 'bone' was beign put in ways it shouldnt, and the killing curse would have killed the third one, was there three at all or was it just the one with crucio?

I really only remember 2 phases of the...thing. One where he was jumping around landing on student's heads, and then when he jumped on Neville'd desk and died. I remember thinking at the time that...wasn't there 3 spells? What was the other one? I was confused. The...thing...convulsed before death, but not as if it were in deep, horrifying pain. I never got a connection between what it was going through and Neville. Just that Neville looked shocked that it died on his desk (as anyone would), then Neville in the next scene staring off into space.

also dumbledore.. how was his attitude throughout the movie? I ask this because Richard Harris's acting was more in key with how his character should act. and Michael in the third movie really.. overdid it. He was very loud (as apposed to the more quiet composure of Harris) and He talked with his arms alot very.. oddly animated-like. I was wondering if he continued the same attitude for him in this movie, or if he was more like the dumbledore from the first two.

I couldn't say without reviewing the first two movies. This Dumbledore wasn't loud or flamboyant. He seemed very fatherly. I liked him a lot.

Also I am curious sense it has been a constant debate in the forums and I was wondering what the director did on it, in the graveyard scene, how you say Malfoy, and the other characters in the circle, do you remember seeing snape in there? (voldemort should have said there were 3 people missing, 1 who was a coward, one who he has lost forever, and one who was loyal) im curious if the director took it into his own hands and put snape IN the graveyard as one of the hooded men, or if he didnt, also if he mentioned the missing people (not just the ones who were missing due to azkaban) Also at the end did Dumbledore ask Snape to put himself in danger, that he knew what he must do if he was prepared to do it? or something along those lines? and then have him (snape) leave the room abruptly / swiftly) at the same time hagrid should also exit the scene because something was asked of him?

I don't think Snape was there at the graveyard at all, not that I remember. And btw, I only remembered seeing Harry's parents, but there were other people there, it's just that I wasn't paying attention to them. I was marveling that Harry's parents were there! I think I can picture the old man now. I don't know about Cedric

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I don't know about the last part of the question, sorry.

You mentioned a band at the Yule Ball playing something punk rock-ish (the band is the Weird Sisters). Were there lyrics to the song, and if so, were they magical world oriented? And can you describe the appearance/instruments/etc. of them?

I have no idea about the lyrics, sorry. They looked very cool, very goth, wearing black and with Marilyn Manson-ish makeup, mainly around the eyes. The instruments didn't seem abnormally weird. I didn't say to myself, wow, what a weird set of drums! or wow, what a weird guitar!


Posted: July 11 2005,8:07 pm

Watt: Equipoise: Did you eat popcorn while watching the movie? If so, did it have butter? What size did you get? Was it good?

No popcorn, but I did get the Nacho/Hog Dog Combo. I got extra cheese, but it was kindof nasty. They wern't good nachos and cheese like at AMC theaters. I put mustard on the hotdog, and it dripped and stained my blouse. The combo came with a drink so I got Diet Coke, but I only sipped it because I didn't want to have to go to the bathroom during the movie.

The girl sitting beside me had popcorn though! I don't recall if she had a drink, sorry.


Posted: July 12 2005,1:04 am

Hey folks, I slept a little bit but thought I'd try to get a few more questions in. I said that last one was the end of kyrane's list, but I was mistaken. I just hadn't cut and pasted the whole thing from Word. Don't anybody freak and think you were skipped.

I don't have any answered at the moment, but more will come soon.

Btw, I read back through some of my posts (sorry about the typos) and saw that there were a few times I said something like "I already answered that" which might have come off sounding miffed, but it wasn't meant that way. I don't mind answering questions I've already answered. In some cases I don't have anything to add, but in others I think of more details or something else to say, so really, don't anyone think I was glaring at you when I said that.

Btw2, thank you VERY much to those people who have been defending me in the Mugglenet News Comments area. I read every one (the last one was something like #230) and many of them caused my eyes to bug out. I was talked out of responding to anyone there, but it's so hard to not say anything when you're being attacked for just seeing a movie.

Which makes coming here all the more wonderful. To read things that make you feel so bad, then read things that make you feel so good, helps so much. I judge the Harry Potter community by the people here and the people who have defended me there, not by the negative comments. And just for the record, I don't judge Mugglenet itself negatively from those nasty or misguided comments. It seems like a fine place otherwise.

Be back soon.


Posted: July 12 2005,1:09 am

Just out of curiousity, why am I being eaten by the pea soup?


Posted: July 12 2005,3:37 am

kyrane, I can't thank you enough for all your hard work. Your list made it very easy for me. I think I've got all the questions up to now. Not all answered, not yet, but I think I'm current with what I have cut and pasted, so you don't have to worry about doing it again. I'll post when I think I'm out of questions to ask if I've missed anybody.

manoyjoe, yes, to the poster of #245

rowansjet, and everyone else who have given me tidbits of plot to help me understand what I saw: THANK YOU! They're fascinating little slices.

I think some of these are repeats, but that's ok. Some of them are from long ago.

Is there a teeny tiny owl in the movie? His name is Pig or Pigwidgeon.

I didn't see him. He could have been around and a fan would have noticed him right away, but I saw no scenes that featured him. He's very cute, so if they'd specifically shown him, I think I would have said "awwww!" and remembered.

Well, I would really just like to know whether or not Dan's/Harry's crying was realistic or not? Like, were there any tears? At any rate, was it convincing?

Yes, very. I was moved.

Oh! So that's in... does she kiss Ron too? And if so, does Hermione get jealous?

Fleur, I assume. I didn't see her kiss Ron. I don't remember Hermione getting jealous at all.

Did you think the movie's climax was scary, as it was in the first three movies?

The graveyard scene, even as rough as it was (rough as in minimal special effects, to be added or finished later) was very scary, even if I was a bit confused. The scene in Moody's office was also confusing, but it was scary too. The confusion of both scenes wasn't a fatal flaw, not to me. It all just make me want to see it again, and read the book.

well you said that Hermione did Kiss Harry at the end, and that there was a big party...a party for what?????

The kiss I was thinking of was given by Fleur to Harry. I got the gist of this while reading back earlier. I said parting and you thought I said partying. Sorry, there was no party (other than the ball, of course).

Hey, Dumbledore hugged Moody! (ok, that's not the hug you were looking for, sorry)

Does the character of Emma Thompson appear?

No, and not mentioned that I remember.

Do the House Elves Appear?

Nope.

Does the Fat Lady (the "door" for the Gryffindor Comoon Room) appear?

Nope. Too bad too. Dawn French is wonderful!

what did you make of the dress of the teens. When they were in plain clothes, was it very modern or more middle of the road. (Everyday jeans and Tees for example).

I didn't notice anything overly trendy. They just looked normal. I've noticed several photos (while looking though galleries) that show the clothes.

And the Wizards at the World Cup, were any dressed oddly (like the didn't know how to dress like Muggles)?

Has anyone filed a missing person's report on msmapper yet? I think someone should. I'm sorry, I wouldn't have noticed this, and it pains me, because it's a cool little detail that I can understand fans wanting to know about. I understand about fans wanting to know all the details I can't provide. I wish I could.

How much time do the Weasleys get at the beginning. Was it rushed, or was there a nice family dynamic there (even briefly)?

I've always liked the family dynamic of the Weasleys. You don't get much extra here, but what's there is nice. They look really comfortable together, and it's no wonder Harry wants to be part of their family. They're mainly all together going up the hill, grabbing onto the boot (what's up with that, btw? I loved it!), walking to the tent, some talking inside, then the panic when the tent village is being destroyed.

Were there hints of the developing friendship of Hermione/Ginny? (I love this little sub-textual friendship in the book, it becomes more text in OotP. But I like Hermione with a GIRL friend)

I can understand why you would. I like them both too. But I didn't see them interact.

Where/when did Hermione ask Ron to 'ask her first' if there's another ball (after the ball or at the end of the film)? You say there's a final embrace at the end (for the trio), is this at school, at the train station, somewhere else?

I thought there were two scenes. One comes as Harry and Ron are leaving the ball. Hermione is very upset and cries. The other, seems to me, was outside, near the very end. I could have sworn there was a scene where Hermione tells Ron to just ask her next time, and that that was a separate scene from the one at the ball. I'm sure it was still at the school, and not the train station. I don't remember seeing the train station this time.

How do the boys react to girls in general?

Awkward, bumbling, cute.

Did Ginny have significant lines in her scenes at least? And did the Weasley Twins have any intresting moments? (beyond defying the age line).

I'm sorry again, but I don't remember Ginny saying anything, which, as I'm sure you've all learned by now, doesn't mean she didn't.

Does Krum talk a lot/have a lot of scenes? Is he ever shown to be worried about the Harry/Hermione relationship? How often do we see Viktor Krum and Hermione together?

I don't remember Krum saying much, if anything at all. There were no scenes I saw of Krum being concerned about Harry and Hermione. Harry and Hermione do talk about Krum. Harry asks her what they talk about and Hermione says they don't talk much, that Krum is a physical guy. My eyebrows raised at that.

Does Dumbledore's office look any differant than in CoS?

I'd have to go back and watch CoS again.

Do Harry parents look the same as they did when they had Harry in PS/COS (James with short dark hair, and robes and glasses) or the picure of them when they were younger from PoA (James with longer hair, and smaller glasses)?

Do you have pictures you can post (or give me the URL?) I can tell you then.

1. Does a scene take place after Harry's name comes out of the cup, where snape says somthing like "He [Harry] has been known to break rules?"

Yes, I think so.

2. Does Snape and the teacher from the other school (Krum's school) discuss anything - like running because the mark is getting darker?

No.

3. Does Moody confront Snape?

I don't think so.

4. In what context does Snape show that he has the dark mark?

It was in Moody's office, but I'm dim on that whole scene (everyone nods in agreement )

Do you remember a scene where Harry throws a 'Potter stinks' badge at Ron? And did it hit his forehead?

Hi, I think we interacted in PM at oscarwatch, but without a name I can't be sure. Just in case (and so others can see my answer) I'll cut and paste what I wrote...

Harry did not throw a Potter Stinks badge at Ron. He never even mentioned them to Ron, or gave an indication he thought Ron was behind them. I got the impression that he thought Ron was behind them, but just as a feeling, not from anything that was said. Harry did call Ron a name, but I can't remember what. If it were present day urban, he would have said "You're being a dick" but it was something like "You're being a jerk" but neither is what he said. I'm sorry I can't remember.

I need to know if Hermione kissed Harry...

Boy, I must really be frustrating to you all. I'm terribly sorry.

So this wasn't explained either? The reason Harry's and Voldemort's wands locked together was because they were BROTHER wands, and BROTHER wands cannot fight one another or that effect happens.

Ok, that wasn't explained, but I appreciate the explanation. How interesting!

If you read GoF then maybe you could answer questions or comment more. Why did you not decide to read them before ??

Because I'm a dorkwad

Oh yeah and before you read then.. On mugglenet they said the last 10 minutes was dull.. did you feel the same or is it just because if one read the books one would expect more?

I didn't find one second of the movie to be dull at all. If I felt anything about the ending, it was that I was sorry it was ending.

What rating do you think it will get? PG or PG-13?

PG-13, I'd bet on it.

1) Do the Durmstrang (Bulgarian) students dance when they enter the hall? And was this good?

They don't dance, and their entrance is VERY cool. They have these walking sticks that they pound on the ground (that give off sparks). It was an impressive entrance!

I have a question...There are a ship in the movie..of the dumstrang students?

At first I thought, wow, is there one in the book? That'd be a cool thing but something they'd certainly cut out of the movie. I was actually musing on the whole scenario and thinking, wow, how wonderfully progressive! when it came to me (cue slap forehead) that you meant a BOAT-SHIP, not a RELATION-SHIP!

Yes, there was a cool-looking ship.

I am wondering whether or not you get to see the Beauxbatons carriage with the big horses, or the Durmstrang Ship coming up from the lake?

The carriage is dim to me, but the Ship is impressive.

1. In the trial scene, he is meant to be about fifteen years younger - does it look like that or do they just leave him about the same? Also, how disturbing is it? It's very harrowing and shouty in the book.

Since I was confused about the character at the time, I couldn't have said, had I answered this earlier. With a few days to think about it (and now that I know more about who he is and what the scene in question was about) I'd say yes, he did look younger. He looked different, which is one reason I was confused. Putting aside the fact that he's a nasty piece of work, the "current day" Crouch Jr. was pretty good-looking.

The whole scene is harrowing, in a dream-like way. I didn't know what the heck was going on or who was who. It all seemed very intense.

2. He's meant to be mad, but does he play it loud or quiet?

Quiet, except for that trial scene. He was wild-eyed and desperate.

3. (bit silly, this one)The book says he's blond, but I can't picture it myself so ...er.. what's his hair like *rolls eyes at self*. I know loads of people who want to know, as he's become a bit of a star since filming this.

Dark-haired, longer than other pictures I've seen of him. He was swoony, had I been inclined to swoon over a bad guy.

You had mentioned that Ron and Harry make up from their fall out. In the book the trio hug after the first task(forced upon by an emotional Hermione). It reads very humerous. Does this make it to the film?

I don't remember, just that they're all very relieved Harry is still alive.

ChaserGirl: do we see Malfoys date for Ball? is she blonde or black haired? is she pretty?

I don't remember Malfoy's date at all.


Posted: July 12 2005,8:34 am

Hi, I thought I could get some more done, but I haven't been able to and won't for several hours. NO QUESTION WILL BE LEFT UNANSWERED (even if it's with a lame "I don't remember") but I have to go now. I thought I'd better say something for anyone who might be waiting for me. British and European folks will certainly be in bed by the time I get back (sorry HuffleDung). I hope what I've answered already will hold you all for a while. To those who've asked the recent questions, I will get to them. I'll get to them all. In a couple days you'll all have forgotten I exist when you start furiously reading (I'm so happy for you all!!) and every question will have been answered. Maybe not to your satisfaction, but you'll have whatever I can give. It's my pleasure.

I'll have some extra comments too. Filipe has been so kind to answer questions in Messenger, making sure I have correct spellings and telling me names of things and giving me URLs to galleries, which I've been pouring over. I even downloaded and watched a series of behind-the-scenes footage. Thanks to Filipe I now know that NO ONE has seen what Moody or Karkaroff look like! I just assumed that with all the pictures out there people had seen them, and the questions about them were just confirmation or something. I've now seen the one (ONE!) picture of Moody in a poster with Harry big in the front and a smaller version of Moody standing straight in the background. Yikes! That's the only tidbit you've been given!?! I didn't know. I'm sorry, I didn't know. I can tell you now that the Moody in the movie looked NOTHING like the impression you would get from that terrible photo! You will like Moody, I think I can just about guarantee that. I'll explain more later.

One other thing for right now:

scarhead101: "You're a right foul git, you know that?"

YEP! That's exactly what it was.

Later...


Posted: July 12 2005,8:28 pm

Hi all, I'm sorry that Tuesday was a wasted day, with me being gone all day and all evening. It' couldn't be helped. Tomorrow will be a productive day, with me getting all caught up (I hope!). I'll try to get some done for our friends across the Atlantic so they'll have something to read when they wake up.

Thanks again for all your thanks. You are so kind!

I don't know who that other Equipoise is, but she has great taste! The world of Happy Rhodes fans is so tiny, it's extremely rare to find someone you don't already know. To try to explain the feeling in HP terms, imagine how it was after the the Philosopher's Stone came out, and if you were one of the few who knew about it and loved it. It was a small, close world and you had your own secret thing you adored...you knew how wonderful and special it was, and you tried to tell others, but most people wouldn't listen, so you kept on loving it and kept on trying to spread the word. One by one, you found others who shared your passion, and when you found someone who already loved it, it was like "Wow! You love Harry Potter/(Happy Rhodes) too?? That's fantastic!." It's kind of like that, if that makes any sense. There's a huge difference, of course. Happy will never be picked up by a record label and achieve mainstream (in the good sense, not the bad sense) success, so I'll never see a time when finding other fans is common. You folks are lucky that so many others have discovered your wonderful thing and share the passion.

I just can't tell you how excited I am for all of you. A new book in just a couple of days!! I feel the rush, even though I'm not, can not possibly be, part of it. (maybe by the next book!!!)


Posted: July 13 2005,2:38 am

These are way out of order, with old and new, and some are bits and pieces from way earlier.

Kaena: To help some people out who were asking about the voldemort thing with those dots on his face, I work in movie cg/special effects (im a compositor) so if I know what unfinished scenes look like (by description) I can probably help out with what there end result will be. Like those dots, there tracking markers, if I know where the dots are, I can tell you what features will probably be taken from them (if theres dots or circles around the eyes/eye area then we will obviously get the snake eyes) but if all the features as in cheekbones ect, key spots we can expect the face to be morphed into another shape, the hands we probably wouldnt see anything at all they would just be cg added later,

I realized I didn't answer this. The dots were mainly on his nose and, I think, forehead. There might have been some on his cheekbones, but the nose dots were the most noticable. I can't WAIT to see how he looks! I don't remember seeing his hands. Your information is fascinating.


Ania: I wonder why nobody has asked that before, am I that strange? You said that Voldemort (the new one) was naked. Was he naked enough to make this movie PG-13 even without all this violence, etc? You don't have to give us details.

I should have explained. Those special effects were not done. It wasn't Ralph Fiennes coming up out of the cauldron, it was a CG model, blocky and blue, but in the shape of a human. The model was naked (because, of course, why would they bother to put clothes on a CG model?). It didn't just stand up from the cauldron, it kind of...unfolded...up and up, and then Ralph Fiennes was standing in the next shot. This is going to look VERY VERY COOL when it's finished. I don't remember seeing full shots of Fiennes's body, so I don't think *he* was naked.


Scasta86: Hi Equipose. You're so lucky that you got to go to the screening. How did you get the tickets. I tried calling River East 21, but they couldn't give me too much info

anyway can you tell us what is the first scene in the movie. Does it start with something like the Riddle House??? And did you feel that the pace of the movie was too fast, or just about right? And did you think the movie's climax was scary, as it was in the first three movies?

I got the pass when I went to see Howl's Moving Castle. You had to call a number and RSVP to the screening. They later called me and left a message (we were out seeing War of the Worlds) to call them. I did, the next day, and was told that the screening was moved from the River East 21 to Piper's Alley.

Stealing and editing from my earlier answer, now that I know some names:

The movie starts with a huge snake slithering through the water, the camera behind and following it. The we see Frank Bryce noticing a light in a window of a spooky nearby house. He goes to investigate and listens outside the door. Voldemort, who you don't really see, is in a chair, and Peter Pettigrew is tending to him. Barty Crouch Jr. is there too. The snake slithers past Bryce and telepathically tells Pettigrew the man is there outside the door. You see Bryce frozen in terror, and the snake coming closer. And then Harry wakes up in a cold sweat. Mr. Weasley is getting everyone up to go up the hill to where the portkey (an old boot) is, then they go to the World Cup.

(Wow, I almost sound as if I know what I'm talking about, doesn't it!)


Aseldar: Oh, and I have one final question: Was it ever revealed, or were you able to guess that Neville's parents were tortured into insanity by Barty Crouch Jr...which is why Neville lives with his Gran and which is also one of the reasons Barty Jr. was in Azkaban in the first place?

It was never reavealed in a way that help me know it. I had no idea. All this back story you and others are giving me is really interesting and helps me understand what it is I saw. But no, I didn't know what in the heck was going on. There was dialoge before Karkaroff started naming names, so maybe something was revealed, but it went right over my head.

Karkaroff was in a strange contraption, an iron thing that encircled him, with steel spikes aiming toward him. He had to stand very still or else get gouged. He was in a prison uniform and looked dirty and wild-eyed. For having to stand still, he looked very intense and frightening. There were a lot of people in the courtroom. I didn't know who anybody was, but I'm sure fans would be able to pick out characters they're familiar with. Well, I knew Harry, who was there watching what was going on.

Also, in the book, it is revealed that although Crouch Sr. HATED his son, his mother loved him and used a polyjuice potion to switch places WITH him in Azkaban--which is how he escaped. She died in Azkaban, and was buried.

Oh my lord! Fascinating!


LivT: Okay, here's two questions (sorry to add to the long list!):
Did the pensieve scene strike you as, in any way, disturbing or scary? If not, what was the overall feeling of this scene? I mean, Crouch Sr. sentences his own son to Azkaban! Were you able to identify that Barty Crouch, Jr. (the son/ fake Moody) was in the pensieve? What about Karkaroff (the teacher guy who lists off names)? Or did you find the scene difficult to follow, as you have never read the books before? Was it a cool scene?

It was a very cool scene, even though I was totally lost. It'll mean so much more when I see the movie again. And again. And again.

The more I learn, the more I feel sorry for this movie. Fans, well, some fans, are going to scream about so much being left out, and non-Potters are going to say wha..? If I had never said anything anywhere about going to the screening, had never had cause to come here and learn so much, I would be totally in the dark still. FOR ME though, it didn't matter. I still liked the movie a lot (and the more I think about it the more I like it) and the confusing parts didn't matter. I would have seen it again, day one, no matter what. It is nice learning these tidbits though.

Also, were you impressed at all with David Tennent's character, Barty Crouch, Jr.?

Yes, though on first viewing I didn't realize all these people were, well, the same person. With learning more and scenes jelling better in my head, I'm more and more impressed.


javadoc: Thanks for the info, Equipoise. I have tried to monitor the entire thread, but I might have missed some things, so please ignore any questions you have already answered.
1. In the opening scene, when Frank Bryce discovers Voldemort and his cohorts in the Riddle house, is there enough overheard dialogue to hint at the plot they are concocting? Do they mention the Quidditch world cup, and placing someone at Hogwarts? Or did this scene serve only to show that Crouch Jr, Pettigrew, and Voldemort were working together at the Riddle house?

I couldn't understand what they were saying, let alone know what they were concocting. I got no sense of what what happening other than bad things were afoot and nothing good would come from whateve it was they were doing. I knew the old guy listening outside wasn't long for the world and when I saw the snake slither past him I thought it was going to wrap itself around him. Btw, who was the snake? I of course didn't know the name of the house, or who all the characters were. I figured it was Voldemort in the chair, and I knew Timothy Spall from the last movie, but I didn't know who the 3rd character was or the old man's name.

2. Were Harry and co. sitting in a special section at the Quidditch match, or did it seem to be "general seating" amongst the crowd? Were there any notable wizards seated near them, especially the Malfoys and Barty Crouch Sr? If Crouch Sr was there, was there an empty seat next to him? (In the book Crouch's house-elf sat in the top box with the honored guests, with Crouch Jr next to her under an invisibility cloak, and controlled by a spell of Crouch Sr's).

I don't remember where the characters were sitting or who was sitting next to who(m?)

3. In the chaos after the match, when the Death Eaters are tearing up the camp... can you tell us a little more about how Harry sees Crouch Jr shooting the Dark Mark into the sky? Where does it happen? Is Harry by himself? Does Crouch Jr use Harry's wand? Is it clear why Crouch Jr is there at all? What happens after the Dark Mark is fired - do other wizards show up to investigate? Do they use a spell effect on Harry's wand to see what were the last few spells that came out of it? (This is important because this is where we are introduced to the idea that one wand can force another to show the last few spells it has cast - it is this effect that causes "ghosts" of Harry's parents to come out of Voldemort's wand at the end in the graveyard scene, along with the "ghost" of Frank Bryce.)

Harry gets separated from the rest of the gang when he sees Death Eaters and stops to look at them more closely. He gets knocked over and passes out. When he comes to, the village is burned and no one else is around. He sees someone (now I know it's Crouch Jr.) walking nearby and sees him use a wand to conjure up a huge ghoul mask in the sky. Somewhere in there Hermione comes back to get him and they leave. It's all much more scary than my description. I was on the edge of my seat. (well, I was on the edge of my seat through most of the movie. The exciting parts were very exciting.)

I don't know about using Harry's wand. I don't remember anything about that, and I don't remember any other wizards showing up at that point. Your explanation as to what was going on is appreciated, thank you.

4. What does Sirius talk about when he appears in the fireplace? Does it involve warning Harry that Karkaroff (the head of the Durmstrang school) was once a Death Eater?

I don't remember what Sirius says, and I don't remember him particularly warning Harry about Karkaroff. Of course, at that point I had no idea what the names Karkaroff or Durmstang meant, so they might have been mentioned. Sirius was warning Harry about something, but I don't remember what. To be honest, I was most busy at marveling over the special effects.

5. Is it explained how Neville acquired the gillyweed that he gave to Harry? You said that Snape confronts Harry about having stolen it... did you assume that Neville had stolen it and given it to Harry?

I didn't know how Neville got the gillyweed, it was not explained. Yes, when Snape confronted Harry I assumed Neville had stolen it. I thought to myself "Neville should tell Snape, to get Harry off the hook."

6. When Dumbledore, Snape, and McGonagall arrive in the nick of time at the end, did they play up how powerful Dumbledore is - does he get to kick butt? Was there a battle, or does Dumbledore simply blast Moody/Crouch Jr unconscious with one massive spell?

That's all a blur to me, sorry. One moment, Harry was sitting down next to the trunk (where the real Moody turned out to be), then Harry sees the images of Snape, Dumbledore and McGonagall in a mirror, then they burst into the room. I don't remember what happens then. The next image that comes to my mind is Crouch Jr./Moody is sitting in a chair. Things that happen, and I don't know in what order: Crouch Jr. tries to drink what Moody has been drinking throughout the whole film and Snape, I believe, knocks in away. Snape gives Crouch Jr. a potion to drink and a violent transformation takes place. Moody's eye "patch" is knocked to the ground and rolls around. Snape shows his arm with a tattoo, and the tattoo is moving and undulating. I don't remember the context and of course I had no idea of the significance. The trunks open up (there are many many trunks inside, like one of those Russian dolls) and when the last one opens, they look inside and Moody is there, very very very samll, a miniature Moody, wearing what I think is a straight jacket. I don't remember what becomes of Crouch Jr.

I don't remember Dumbledore in particular kicking Crouch butt.

7. Do you remember any mention of a truth serum called Veritaserum? Does Snape threaten to use it on Harry? Does Dumbledore use it on Crouch Jr at the end to force him to reveal how he infiltrated Hogwarts?

That has to be the serum that is given to Crouch Jr. I thought it was Snape who gave it to him. Earlier in the film, yes, Snape threatenes to use it on Harry to tell him how he stole the gillyweed.

8. Was there any mention of an "incident" in which Mad-Eye Moody was attacked at his house shortly before he reported to Hogwarts to teach?

Not that I remember.

9. Did Moody have a wooden foot, and walk with a limp? Was there evidence that his rotating blue eye could see through things?

Yes to the first questions. He had a wooden leg (not just foot) and walked with a limp. At one point he takes off the leg and lays it aside.


Posted: July 13 2005,3:33 am

Thank you for the information gryffinheart. It seemed to me as if it was a telepathic exchange, but perhaps it spoke so low that I didn't hear it. All I know is, I didn't hear a voice coming specifically out of the snake to make me think "wow, the snake talks!" so I assumed it was telepathic. Don't quote me.

javadoc: as there evidence that his rotating blue eye could see through things?

I forgot to answer this. No, we didn't see Moody's "real" eye, and the fake eye, the pupil, was red, not blue. That's something they could change though. I don't remember anything that indicated he could see through things.

As I said before, you will like Moody. Forget that other picture. I mean really, that's a TERRIBLE picture. Things wrong with it:

1. That Moody is standing up straight. The movie Moody kind of hunches a bit through the movie. He walks with a limp and a somewhat jerky motion

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2. That Moody has nicely combed hair. The movie Moody's hair is about the same length, but is wild and wispy.

3. That Moody is dressed like, I don't know what, a leather coat-wearing fop. The movie Moody is dressed in an old ratty coat that looks like it's seen some great adventures.

4. That Moody looks really clean. The movie Moody looks like maybe you wouldn't want to stand upwind of him. He's very unkempt.

5. The eyepatch is ALL WRONG. The movie Moody's eye patch is cooler than cool. Seriously, it was freaking fascinating!

Brendan Gleeson is brilliant! He steals EVERY scene he's in. I know I haven't read the book, so what do I know, right? But really, I think the last thing anyone should worry about is Mad-Eye Moody.


Madame_SugarQuills: Equipoise, I just wanted to thank you for putting up with my questions!! I know that ever since you started this thread people have been bombarding you with questions, and I hope that your head isn`t splitting right now! Thank you so much!

Thank you. My head isn't splitting, I'm just sorry I made people wait a day and a half for more answers.

P.s I kno that you have already answered my questions but I just have one more thats been bugging me. Did Dumbledore mention anything about assembling "the old crowd"? Did he say any names such as Mundungus Fletcher, Arabella Figg, and Remus Lupin? (this would be mentioned towards the end of the film-after Harry comes back with Cedric and they gave Barty Crouch Jr. the dementor`s kiss-by the way, did they put that in the film-and if not how did they arrest Barty Crouch Jr.? Also, did they completely shrug off Crouch Sr.`s death?

I don't remember the names mentioned, but they wouldn't have meant anything to me. I am blanking out on what happened to Crouch Jr after he turns back into himself. I don't remember seeing any Dementors, and I LOVED them from Azkaban, so if there'd been a scene where they come to take Crouch Jr. away I think I would have noticed. It could be something they add in later.

All I remember about Crouch Sr's death is that he was found in the forest. At the time it didn't register who he was but of course, now I know.


manoyjoe: my question is are you doing ok?not tiring of the never ending thirst of fans to learn about the movie?

Not tiring at all. I wish I could be of more help. At least, anything I can't remember will mean that everyone reading this thread isn't *completely* spoiled.


Tin0c0: Equipoise, i have a question: what was your favorite Ron and Hermione moment besides the Yule Ball scene?

Well, it involved Harry too, but the scene by the lake, that was wonderful!


pattysan: Did you see anything about getting the champs together to check their wands or take a picture, supposedly this is part of that, or maybe that was cut off from the movie.

No, I'm sorry, it wasn't in the movie.


lala land: Since you're back, and I'm leaving, I know you already have way too many questions to answer, but I have just two more.

1) How do you feel Ron's characterization came off to you? Did he seem silly and carttonish or constantly scared. Or did he seem to be showing more development than in the previous installments (besides his fallout with Harry)?

Ron did not seen silly or cartoonish at all. He was more defiant and angry in this film. I wish they'd had something better to make him defiant and angry about other than thinking Harry had put his name into the Goblet without telling him how he did it. I just thought, Ron should know Harry better than that, I'd think. It was sad to see them estranged. His cluelessness about Hermione was funny, not silly, not to me. It seemed realistic. I don't know how much development he's made since the last movie. That's for people who know him better than me to say.

2) Was Weasley's Wizard Wheezes ever mentioned? It is a prank shop the Weasley twins are trying to start. I am guessing it was cut

No, never mentioned. Thanks to everyone's explanation about this. It sounds great!


malthis: This is a really silly question, I know, but I have been wondering for a long time how they are going to be dress in the second task (that's the underwater one)

Is Hermione wearing a skirt?
Is Ron in a shirt?
are they in their uniforms or in sport clothes?.
Thanks again.

You're welcome. Ron and Hermione and Cho are in their school robes. I can't say for sure what Gabrielle was wearing. I picture her wearing a long black robe too, but when I think of it, why would she? She doesn't go to Hogwarts. I don't know.

ver077: I know you haven't read the book, but I was wondering just how accurate the graveyard seen was. Was Harry tied to a tombstone and tortured? Was there a circle of Death Eaters all laughing and jeering? I know you already mentioned that they took blood from Harry and killed Cedric and all that, but I was just wondering about some more details. Thanks!

I couldn't possibly know about the accuracy. Harry wasn't tied to the tombstone, but he was trapped there by what looked to me like a sword across his chest, so he couldn't move. I don't think he was tourtured, other than Pettigrew cutting his arm badly to take blood, and of course his forehead hurting terribly. There was a circle of Death Eaters, but not around Harry. They were in front of Harry, facing each other, not facing Harry. I don't remember them laughing and jeering. I don't remember them making any sound at all. The only one revealed was Lucius Malfoy.


HalfBloodPrince: 1) Did Barty Crouch Jr. get killed at the end? In the book, he got his soul sucked out by Dementors.

I wish I could remember, but it's a blank. Sorry. As I said, I didn't see any Dementors.

2) Did they show that courtyard anymore in GOF? They showed it a lot in Prisoner, so i hope they didnt show it for GOF too much.

I'm blanking on any courtyard scenes, so I guess they don't.

3) How did the students arrive at the castle? By the horseless carriages?

I assume you're asking about the Beauxbatons and not the Hogwarts students. The Beauxbatons arrive in carriages. Now I'm confused as to if there were horses or not. I'm sorry, it's dim to me.


Sloshed: 1. How was Draco's reaction to seeing Hermione looking stunning at the Yule Ball?

I don't specifically remember Draco looking at Hermione.

2. Did Draco warn Hermione during the Dark Mark scene? Did the scene below ever happen? "Hadn't you better be hurrying along, now? You wouldn't like her spotted, would you?" ...

Not sure what the Dark Mark scene is. Is that the big ghoul in the sky? I don't think Draco was around. I don't remember the exchange you posted. There was a scene, might have been when they first got to the World Cup, where Lucius speaks to Harry and Ron and Hermione. I think Draco was there too but I don't remember if he said anything. I also don't remember what led up to Moody turning him into a ferret, but it might have involved Hermione.


wheezy's_gal: #1 - Do you remember a scene where Harry throws a "Potter stinks" badge at Ron (which hits Ron's forehead)?

Didn't happen. They showed students wearing the buttons (what a mean thing to do!) but Harry never confronted Ron about them.

#2 - Did Fleur Delacour kiss Ron too at the lake (after kissing Harry on the cheek)?

Not that I remember.

#3 - At the lake, do they show Rupert swimming? What was he wearing? You described earlier that he's so hot there -- did he have enough screentime at the lake? was he wet? was he topless? Any Ron topless scene/s

Oh, it's like *that* eh? :) I'm sorry to say, I don't think Ron was ever shown in the full or semi-buff. I don't know what the "lake scene" you're talking about is. If it's in reaction to the lake scene I mentioned (Hermione tells Harry what Ron said), everybody was fully dressed. In the 2nd Task lake scene, everybody is fully dressed except Harry, who is wearing a suit that looks like it came from 1910. Uglyyyyy! (not Harry, just the suit)

When I answered that earlier question about Ron being hot with a HELL yes!, I wasn't really thinking of a particular scene, just Ron in general. Sorry to get your hopes up. :)


suitcase: If it's at all posible - how did Barty Crouch Jr come across? What did he look like? How "strange" did he act?

Well, he was really good-looking, but I suppose that's not what you're looking for. He acted very strange, wild-eyed and desperate in the trial scene, quiet and creepy elsewhere.


elmshakers: I have a question out of ten what would rate the movie. Also did Ron and Hermione hug nobody bothered asking that.

I don't remember Ron and Hermione hugging. About rating it, it'd depend on how I were basing the 1 and 10. If 10 were my ALL TIME FAVORITE film, Brazil, PoA would be an 8 and this would be around a 7ish+ in the current form. If Harry Potter movies, PoA would be 9 and this would be 8 on the first viewing, would probably rise when I see the final, finished film. I feel I should wait until Terry Gilliam directs the last film before assigning a 10. :)


Honeyducks: How was harry at the graveyard, when he found out they killed Cedric, and when Voldemort came up from the Cauldron, and he sees his parents??

Harry looked scared the whole time he was there. Regarding the other events, I can't say. Since that sequence is far from finished, I'm sure they'll add in more reaction shots and other scenes, because I don't remember there being that many.

And where you shocked when Cedric and Harry where transported to the graveyard, and all that stuff? Just curious..

Oh yeah, very shocked. I had no idea what would happen or when it did, why it happened.


amo: Thank you Equipoise. You’ve answered some of my questions already, but i am genuinely obsessed with the international dimension to this film, and therefore kind of sad that it seems to have been pared down. And i have some more questions...

1. okay, “krum’s one line” is a bit of a shocker, but at least it fits with character. how about Fleur? Does she get many lines? ( you said she was a “blip”: did you mean her part is tiny or that the actress was really forgettable?)

I can't for the life on me remember Fleur saying one thing. That's not to say she didn't. You all are well-aware of my terrible memory by now. Her part is very small and, well, I don't think the actress stood out. For one thing, she looked like all the other girls from the school. I kept forgetting which one she was. She was very pretty, but, to me, had no distinguishing characteristics to make me think "Fleur!" whenever her face was shown. Not that I would have known her name anyway. I didn't know it until I came here. So there was nothing to make me think "That girl in the tournament!" unless she was in a scene having directly to do with the tournament.

2. is there bouillabaisse?

The soup? I don't know. Not that I recall. That's something that fans would pick up on right away.

3. does ron ask fleur to the ball?

Yes he does, but it's not shown. Only his reaction to having asked it shown. That's a cute scene. At the time, I didn't know who it was he asked, and it was still a funny scene.

4. does fleur obviously fancy cedric?

I didn't notice.

5. how does fleur react when her sister is rescued? Is she hysterical? Do they hug etc?

Not hysterical. I don't remember a reaction of any kind. To be honest, that whole bit was confusing. Maybe they're just not done with the special effects, but I never got why she wasn't able to rescue her sister and Harry was, and I'm not even sure how Harry did it.

6. do we see fleur’s mother?

Not that I know.

7. do we see the beauxbatons/durmstrangs in their own clothes, or just uniforms/tournament outfits?

I only remember uniforms and the clothes they wore while in the tournament.

8. do we see the beauxbatons getting in and out of their carriage?

I don't think so.

9. how does fleur act around her yule ball date? Does he have any lines? Do we see them dancing?

Do you hate me by now? I don't remember any of that. I only remember them (all 4 tourny competitors with their dates) walking into the ball, filing in, one after the other. I think Cedric was first.

Needless to say I’m quite keen on Fleur…although I will almost certainly be keener on you, if you can answer any of my questions.

Not so keen now, eh? I didn't really like the Beauxbatons, sorry. Their entrance into the Great Hall at the beginning was terribly silly (it was a bizarre prancing and fluttering around thing) and made me roll my eyes. SORRY! When I saw that an all-girl's school was part of the tournament I perked up...how very cool! But as soon as they entered the hall doing that prancy thing my heart sank, and nothing that happened after that made me change my opinion of them. They didn't do *anything* interesting. Fleur didn't do anything interesting. Well, she kissed Harry, but I even forgot about that. Girly girl wizards are fine, if they do interesting wizardy things, but I didn't see any of that. I'm sure Fleur and the Beauxbatons are TONS more interesting in the book. If you're so keen on them, there must be a good reason for it, but they zero'd out in the movie, at least for me. Either I'm full of it, or you should be prepared to be awfully disappointed.

I liked their teacher though. She at least was interesting-looking.


coolbeans3131: I was wondering if it was clear to you and Harry immediately that Cedric was dead? What was Harry's immediate reaction? Did Harry seem brave trying to fight Voldemort? Was there a part when Cedric's spirit asked Harry to take him home to his parents?

I didn't know for sure that Cedric was dead until Harry brought him back. I think Harry was too busy trying not to die to notice that Cedric was dead. I definitely don't remember any part where Cedric's spirit talked to Harry.

By the way, in one of my earlier answers I said a picture/clip was from the dragon fight, but in fact it was from when Harry comes back with Cedric. I'm sure of it now. It's when Hermione yells out HARRY! I'll have to do a cull through photos and find it, if anyone doesn't know which one I'm talking about.

What does your username mean?

Literally, "state of balance" which is pretty far away from what I am, so it doesn't apply to me. I chose it because it's the name of my favorite Happy Rhodes album and I've used it for years.


Lady Narcissa: Equipoise, thanks so much for answering all these questions! One more for you. You mentioned Lucius Malfoy (aka Draco's father aka Jason Isaacs) appearing in the graveyard scene. Is he in any other scene in the movie? Maybe in the stands at the World Cup? Or at the campgrounds when the Dark Mark appears in the sky?

He gets all snarky with the trio (I figured out what that means!) and I think, maybe, possibly, it was at the World Cup. I don't remember seeing him anywhere else.


Hi all, life intervened last night again and I couldn't get something together in time to post.

Ania: Somebody asked about Hermione's scream from the trailer. If you look at the still from that trailer you'll see she's surrounded by crowd of adults who look a bit scared and all have painted faces. So if Harry got tramped (MuggleNet's report) and passed out, the panic at the wizard campsite probably was big enough to separate the trio and I think Hermione screamed when either the crowd took her from Harry or when Harry was being tramped. Either way, great H/Hr moment. Oh well, it was to be expected.

I'm so confused now. At first I thought it was the dragon scene, but that happens during the day, and I found a picture of them in the stands watching Harry, but I can't find it again. It's a different picture from them watching the World Cup. Then I thought it was the scene near the end, when they're all waiting for Harry to come back from the graveyard, and he does, with dead Cedric. Now I'm not so sure, because why would the people there have painted faces, I ask myself? After my earlier certainty, I'm up in the air again.

Next question I think I can answer is about 'yelling scene' between Harry and Hermione we've seen in behind-the-scenes GoF.There was also a scene where Hermione was talking to Ron, she was in the same outfit and seemed equally annoyed. I think those are parts of the same sequence by the lake with Harry, Ron, Hermione and Ginny that Equipoise mentioned couple of times. For me, it looks like this scene replaced the famous H/Hr walk around the lake. Hermione talked to Harry and passed to him Ron's words about going to Hagrid. Harry didn't understand what she was talking about, so she went back to Ron to clear that bit out (and we can see them together in the preview) I also think there's somebody else in this scene - just behind Hermione, that could be Ginny and it would make sense if she was there to talk to her brother. Hermione then, even more annoyed, goes back to Harry and tells him what Ron said. Harry is mad and as he can't yell at Ron, he demands on her an explanation. Hermione has got enough and that's the moment when she turns to him and yells 'I'm not an owl!', as we've seen in that video. So they didn't really argue imo.

This is absolutely right. The pictures are taken from a different angle than what's in the movie, but the mad Hermione photos are from that scene. It is Ginny with them, I'm pretty certain of it. The 3 of them walked down to where Harry was, then Ron and Ginny held back while Hermione went up to talk to Harry. The only thing I'm not fairly sure of is who Harry was with before Ron and Ginny and Hermione show up. I think it was Cedric, but don't hold me to that.


ImposterMoody: 1. What does Crouch/Moody get asked in the office? What is his reply, and do you realize that Crouch Jr. is Crouch Sr.'s son. (I just read that and it looks really stupid. )

Not stupid, but as usual, I can't really answer the first two questions. I kind of realized that Crouch and Crouch were related. Wait, that's not the right answer. One part of my brain knew it, but it was all a big whoosh. If there'd been time to stop and think about it, it would have been an easy thing to think about, remember, and know for sure, but events were happening fast and furiously, and there was no time to stop and think about it. I'm not sure I realized that all the men from the trial were the same men from later in the film. Karkaroff, no. It wasn't so much that he looked different, because he didn't really look that different from the trial scene and the school scenes, but I didn't realize he'd get off and then become a headmaster. Somewhere deep inside I thought "that guy looks like that other guy" but dismissed it with a "How could that guy be that other guy? One's in prison and one's a headmaster of a school. Don't be silly." It wasn't something I thought about consiously, but the part of my brain that was trying to figure out what the heck was going on and was busy with logical thought told me that they couldn't possibly be the same person. That part of my brain was wrong and I've given it a strict talking-to.

Crouch and Crouch? It was all a blur. I "understood" it much more after thinking about it later than I did at the time. I quote "understood" because I didn't *really* understand until I came here and was told things. Still, one part of my brain knew it because when I go back and read my oscarwatch thread, I said "some guy's son." I'm amazed I got that.

None of that makes any sense at all, does it? I have a weird brain. I'll have to think of a better answer. The bottom line is, it was all confusing and happening so fast, and I wish I'd known then what I know now. But, I will know it when I see the movie again. It'll all be clear to me, even if I don't get the book read by then, it'll be much clearer anyway, thanks to you people.

2. Discribe Mad-Eye's Eye if you please.

The red pupil moved, but not precisely in conjunction with his normal eye. That's one thing that made it so fascinating and creepy at the same time. You weren't sure where the eye was going to end up looking, and it might be in a completely different direction than his normal eye. The eyeball didn't move, but the pupil did, and not just looking from side to side or up and down like normal eyes do. It rotated and skittered around. It's hard to explain just how weird and hypnotic it was. I loved it! I loved him.

1. Does Barty Jr. end up dying at the end?

I don't remember

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HuffleDung: 1) In the end are we told that a Dementor killed Barty Crouch Jnr. (the imposter Moody) after he is found out for being an imposter? (In the book, shortly after telling Dumbledore the whole truth, he is killed by a dementor!)

I don't remember, sorry. I didn't see any Dementors.

2) When they use spells in this film, do jets of lights come from their wands (like in PS and COS) or just a subtle wind like in POA? I preferred the POA version, was much more believable!

Really, the only wands I remember being used are the headmaster(?) who opened the World Cup, Crouch Jr's (well, I supposed it was Harry's, but I don't remember it being stolen) at the beginning, conjuring (or whatever it was he did) the ghoul face in the sky (I forget if someone told me already, was that supposed to be Voldemort?), and Harry's and Voldemort's at the end in the graveyard. There were problably other instances, but those stick in my mind.

3) Overall was it good? Was it better than POA? And if so, why?

Very good. I can't judge it next to PoA until I see the final version. I might well end up liking it even more than PoA. I don't know yet.

What is happening in this picture? (is it when Ron and Harry are watching Neville dance? Or something else?):
http://www.hogwarts-gallery.org/hogwartsgallery/picture.php?cat=165&image_id=4090&expand=161,165,161

No, I don't think so. To me, they don't even look like the Ron and Harry from GoF. They look much younger. I know it's from GoF, but it looks off to me.

When they were watching Neville dance, they were in shadow, watching from a slightly-opened doorway. It wasn't bright like that picture. They were crouched together much closer too.


schtroumph_c: I know you said you didn't remember Snape dancing, but there was a info (from the actress who play Ginny) about Snape dancing tango with McGonagall (could be the actors goofing).
I'm sure it's the kind of things you doesn't forget, but maybe he was in the scene where McGonagall teach dancing?

Right, perhaps it was from the dancing lessons sequence, but I don't remember much of that. When I try to think of it, images from the very charming Mad Hot Ballroom and their dancing lessons intrude.


Scasta86: HI. Equipoise, you probably have been asked this already, but what was the first scene in the movie? What theater did the screening take place, because I called River East 21, but couldn't get through. And was Mad Eye-Moddy's magical eye CG or real-life?

The first scene that I remember is of the snake slithering in the water. I think we got a head-on view first, then the camera swoops around behind it and follows it. That's what I have in my head anyway.

God forbid I should ever have to be a witness in a murder trial or something else serious. I'd be terrible at it.


Wants2BeAnExtr: aWhen Harry is finished in the prefects bathroom and exits into the hallway, does he take a different turn? And like, fall into a step? Harry drops the egg and it starts wailing. Harry is stuck in the step. At this time Filch and his cat are there and think it is Peeves (who has not been in any of the movies to date, so perhaps they left that out). Then Snape comes, followed by Moody. This makes for an interesting pondering point when Moody sees Harry through the cloak. Snape thinks Harry is up to something and that it is Harry's egg. Moody does something and Snape clutches his arm. We at this time do not know what it is that made Snape clutch his arm, but later we find out that it is the Dark Mark.

All that's really interesting, but I don't think any of it happened in the movie. I don't think Harry used his cloak to get to the bathroom.

Is this in the movie? I think it would make for an intense and thought provoking scene. It's not intirely important but I figured I'd ask anyways.

I don't think they showed him coming or leaving the bathroom.


beatnik76: Equipoise, no we haven't really seen what Moody or Karkaroff look like and it's driving some of us insane!! LOL Okay more insane than usual. Now the actor portraying Karkaroff is dark (dark hair, dark eyes) and I'd wondered if they were keeping him that way for the film or going by the book version silver hair and blue eyes.

No, wild dark hair and dark eyes, much like in the middle and right pictures here:
http://www.veritaserum.com/movies/actors/pedjabjelac.shtml
only I don't remember his beard at all, and with longer and fuller hair. As I said before, he wore gpysy-type clothes. I tried to find a picture of an approximation of his costume and haven't yet.

heartless_wench During the celebration after the dragon task (did you say they showed that?), do the twins play a joke on say.... Neville???

They did show Harry's dragon task, but only talked about Fleur, Cedric and Krum's tasks. They did show all 4 of their miniature dragons.

I don't think a prank was in there.

Ok, instead of asking about the "spiders" or whatever they were, how 'bout I ask the question this way: You mention Neville seems affected by the thingy dieing on his desk. At some point during that scene, does Harry seem affect by what's going on? Is there a wooshing green light/spell before the thingy dies (tho that might be a special affect not yet added)?

You're right about the green light/spell. That's the kind of thing they could add at the last minute. It wasn't there that I remember, and I don't remember Harry being affected. All my attention was on Neville.

Thank you for your information about the portkey, and your kind thoughts.


Harry'sFan: Hey, I just had a few questions.
1. I've heard from another film report on Mugglenet that during the World Cup scene Harry get trampled and passes out? Is this true? If so, when he wakes up is Barty Crouch J. there doing something to deal with the dark mark? Are Ron and Hermione there with Harry when he passes out or do they get separated?

Yes, Harry was separated from Ron and Hermione, then he was trampled by the crowd and was knocked out. When he wakes up he sees Crouch and the thing (Dark Mark?) in the sky.

2. Once Harry's name comes out of the Goblet, when does Harry notice Ron is mad at him? In the book, Harry finds out in the boys' dormitory. Is it different in the movie?

Yes, it was in the boy's dorm. Er, no, it wasn't different in the movie.

Equipoise, thank you so much for your help! You are being amayzing! Thanks again for taking your time to answer our questions!

You're so welcome, to you and everyone who's sent thanks. As I said before, my memory lapses will at least mean that you aren't completely spoiled for the movie.


Mistressofthedarkarts: Is there any mention of joke-type things, eg fake wands....?

Not that I recall. Well, the twins turning into old men with beards was certainly a joke. On them!


Nahima: I have just found your twin Equipoise! She is a fanfic author and has published stories in the Ashwinder site. Penname: Equipoise [Contact] [Add to Favorites]

Where'd you find this? I couldn't find it.


Jessica Lares: Some screeners who’ve seen the film have talked about a funny scene with Snape; can you recall what exactly happens?

The funny scene that comes to mind is when the students are supposed to be studying and, if I remember correctly, Snape whacks their heads because they're talking. I don't remember who he whacks.

Overall, how are the disputes between Harry and Ron? Is it straight out of the book, or do they sidetrack a bit?

Not the person to ask, sorry. I'll get back to you when I've read the book. :)

Are the Unforgivable Curses presented in the films? Meaning, does Moody teaches the students about them and tries one on Harry, like in the books?

Yes, but no, not on Harry. On the insecty-spidery-grasshoppery thingy.

How has Daniel Radcliffe’s acting changed since Prisoner of Azkaban, and how does it compare to, lets say, Sorcerer’s Stone?

Sorcerer's Stone is a blank to me. I like Daniel and think he's a fine actor, in Azkaban and here. When I stated a preference though, I got into trouble, so I'll keep mum about that.

How many times do we actually see Harry and Cho together?

On the train, and when he asks her to the ball are the times I remember.

So, do we actually get to see the scene with Moaning Myrtle? How does the movie translate that?

There is a scene with Moaning Myrtle, who is *very* interested in Harry's body and would like nothing more than to peek under the bubbles when she snuggles up to him in the bathtub/fountain. I didn't think I liked her, but the more I think of that scene the funnier it gets to me.

Do we see Cho after the death of Cedric?

I don't think so.

Can we see the Darkmark on Snape's arm?

Yes.

How is the French actress, Clemence Poesy (Fleur)? Is she in the film a lot and pretentious?

That whole gaggle of gals was pretentious. She looked snooty. I only warmed up to her a bit when she kissed Harry in thanks for saving her sister's life. I can't wait to see the movie again to find out why she didn't save her own sister's life, because I still don't know.

Might I just interject that I love the pictures I've recently seen of Poesy wearing a period costume. She's breathtaking in those photos. In GoF she was very severe, hair slicked back, futuristic costume, yet very plain at the same time. What did those costumers, makeup people and hairstyists do to that poor girl?

Is this movie more touching than the others? Will we cry when Cedric dies?

Yes and yes, if you are the type who cries. I am. I did.

Has Harry been tortured in the Graveyard with the Cruciatus Curse?

Not in the version I saw.

Will we see the Blast-Ended Skrewts?

No, unless you fans would notice them where I wouldn't (like Pig, and the female at the trial and house elfs).


Insufferable-know-it-all: If this has been answered already and I didn't notice you can ignore.
1) Did you get to see alot of the twins, George and Fred Weasley's, joke shop merchandise being tried out all around Hogwarts?

Not at all, but boy that sounds like fun!

2) Was the film's atmosphere different from the last one? Like was it more realistic then the first two?

Same atmosphere, dark and forboding. More realistic than the first two? Yes, to me.


Kammi: Someone asked this, but I just want to clear it up: So Harry did NOT ask Hermione about helping him with the first task?? In the book she helps him master the Summoning charm that brings him his Firebolt. Did she not help him at all??

I have no memory of Harry asking Hermione to help him with the first task. I don't remember a Summoning charm and I definitely don't recall a firebolt. Harry had his broom.


Stupidfathobbit13: Hey Thanks so much for answering all of our questions! It is really so sweet of you! Do you mind if I ask one?
You said after the graveyard scene Harry is taken to Moody's office, and you said sombody "Rescued" him from attacking him. Was this Dubledore? and what happened afterwords in this scene? thnx so much!

Snape, Dumbledore and Miss Brod...er, Professor McGonagall come to rescue Harry. It all whooshed by so quickly. You might look back at one of my other posts for a few more details.


Thanks beep1012 and HuffleDung. Man, you guys are nice to me. When I think of the amount of guffaws, snortles and eye-rollings I must cause, I just cringe. You teach me, and I learn (most of the time, sometimes it takes a few times) and I appreciate all these tidbits.

I'm very close to being caught up. I'll answer your questions next.

beep1012: I have another question. I hope you're not confused by it.

In this one interview with Dan, he says that the guys all acted wierd when the girls ,from that French school, came to the school. Dan gave an impression, during the interview, as if he went into a trance because of the girls' sexuality. Basically the guys swoon when they saw the girls. (Don't they all. hehe)

My question is, did the guys acted like that? Did they just stare at the girls when they came over because they were beautiful?

I think the boys were in awe, yes. I think I remember a bit of a sneer/eye-rolling from Hermione because of it.


HufleDung: In the Owlery Scene with Cho, what do they talk about? Is it a very short scene?

It's fairly short. Harry tries to go out while Cho tries to go in (or wait, maybe it's the other way around), so they do that thing that there should be a name for, where they each move to get out of each other's way but end up being in front of each other again, then Cho turns around to leave, Harry says either "Cho" or "Wait" (I forget which), and she stands there expectantly. Harry bumbles a bit, then asks her to the dance. She looks crestfallen, and tells Harry that she already has a date. You could tell she really wanted to go with Harry, but she's an honorable young woman and would never break a previously-made date to go out with another. If I remember right (never a sure bet) Harry looks disappointed and almost relieved at the same time, with, I got, a little bit of "oh great, who am I going to ask now?" mixed in.


pokute: 1. Was Ron Weasley true to his book!character's personality this time around?? (meaning, did Rupert portray him with a sense of "comic relief" with the emphasized stupidity and cowardice of the previous movies, or for once have they given him a chance to shine?

I didn't get a sense of stupid/coward Ron. I don't remember having that impression during the last movie either, but it has been a long time since I've seen it. We bought the DVD but haven't watched it yet. (I KNOW I KNOW! Such will be mended)

Besides Cute Ron :) I got a sense of Unfair Ron, because I couldn't understand why he was mad at Harry and thought he was being terribly unfair, but I understand better now where his head was at. I got a sense of Confused About Hermione Ron. I got a sense of I-Can't-Believe-I-Just-Did-That! Ron (when he asked who I now know is Fleur to the ball). That wasn't comic relief, that was Whooo! At Least You Tried!! Ron, to me. If Ron was supposed to be a comic relief in this movie, I didn't pick up on it.

2. Was Hermione true to her book!character's personality?? Aka, did Emma Watson bring out more of herself or more of Hermione?

I wouldn't know the answer to either question, sorry. I like Hermione very much.


starsailor: 1. There was a scene of hermione and harry quarelling in the woods near the lake, can you tell me what it was about

You've probably seen the answer to this by now. If not, review my posts. I don't know the post # where I specifically talked about that. It was a funny scene.

2. Can you tell me some of the best harry/hermione chemistry scenes? and do you think they had enough of chemistry?

The very best one was right before the Dragon Task, when Hermione was on one side of the tent and Harry was on the other. There's a really nice picture of that somewhere. They talked, and then Hermione came into the tent and they hugged. That was when Rita's photographer took the picture of them.

I think they had a lot of chemistry.

3. How would you rate the movie overall?

Excellent.


dblsweetness08: You mentioned that there is a scene where Lucious Malfoy confronts Harry, Ron and Hermione, do you remember when this is, or what was said? Thanks a bunch!

No and no. I kind of think it was at the World Cup now. Lucius was being his usual snarky, mesmerizing, sneering self. Whatever was said, you can bet it was snarky and sneering, and that he still looked mesmerizing. (Too bad he's a bad guy, damn I love his eyes and hair!)


ScribeArianna: What was Rita Skeeter's interview like? Where was it, and did she have a quill that wrote on its own? What was the article like, and when did Harry read it? Were other students quoting it at him to make fun of him?

Rita hustled Harry into a small room...no, not a room, more like a broom closet. She asked him a few questions that, though I don't remember what they were, were decidedly on the bitchy side. She got his age wrong. She said 12, and he corrected her saying 14, but when the article came out, it said 12. Harry was ticked off by that. I don't remember where he read it and I don't remember other students making fun of him about it.

Yes, she had a notebook that followed her around, and a quill that wrote by itself. The special effects weren't quite done yet.


Harry'sFan: 1. Does Harry get hurt by the Dragon in the first task? I've seen some footage where he's wearing a sling and has, I think burns, on his face. Is that from the dragon or another part? Thank you for answering another question of mine.

No, Harry doesn't get hurt by the dragon. Well, he had a few close calls with the dragon's fire which would explain the burns on his face. Of course, in real life (ha) he'd be a charcoal briquet (just like Frodo and Sam on that rock would be) but we make allowances for lead characters because we don't want them to look like Melto Man for the rest of the movie.

I saw that TRL piece too, and I am also curious how Dan injured his arm.


alibabeia: Hello! Can I join this?? =P
*How is everyone able to watch the third task?? I mean, I see no bleachers in this pic.
http://www.hogwarts-gallery.org/hogwartsgallery/galleries/Films/MOV_YR4GOF/r_trl_fulltease42.jpg

Yes you can! That scene started at the entrance, ground level, with everyone in a semi-circle around the contestants. I think there are pictures of that around. Once Harry, Fleur, Cedric and Krum go in, you don't see the audience again. After the graveyard scene, when Harry takes hold of Cedric and takes hold of the trophy again, I assumed he'd come back out in front of the entrance. But no, instead they re-appear in a room, a small room too. Very odd, now that I think of it. The audience is sitting on bleachers but there couldn't have been a lot of people on them, the room didn't seem too big, so I don't know where the rest of the school was. All the important characters were there waiting though. I thought sure that was when Hermione screams "HARRY!" but what I mainly remember is that everybody is cheering and then people realize that something is very very wrong, because Cedric isn't moving, and Harry is crying in anguish. Someone says "He's dead!" The crowd quiets down and Cedric's father pushes through the crowd to get to his son. Professor Moody pulls Harry off Cedric's body saying something like "now is not a good time for you to be here" (which, whatever the exact words were, gave me the shocked impression that people might blame Harry and all of a sudden turn on him), then Moody leads Harry out of the room, back to Moody's office.

To answer your question, I don't know. I assume they had a high-definition wizard TV there, or something. I have no idea what they could have been watching though. An empty maze?

*Do they show Crouch's (sir) dead body or they just mention? What about Cedric? Does it show his face or anything? Does it show the spell hitting him (AVADA KEDAVRA)? Does Voldemort say "Kill the spare" or somthin like that?

They show Crouch's body, and face (though I didn't really catch who it was). Cedric's face, dead, is not shown that I remember. I have no memory of Cedric's death, so I don't know about the curse. I don't recall what Voldemort said. I was too busy just being terrified for Harry.

*Did you see Hermione hanging with Krum? I mean, talking? Or just in the ball scene?

I don't remember them hanging out, but she talks to Harry about hanging out with Krum. That surprised me because, unless I missed something, I thought they'd only gone to the ball together. I only remember them together in the ball scene.

What was Ron's reaction when Hermione told him to ask her next time?

Ron was dumbstruck. Was he dumbstruck at himself for not thinking of it, or was he drumbstruck at Hermione for either yelling at him/bringing up the subject? I don't know.

Is Cedric popular? I mean, in the book he's considered the most handsome, popular and niciest guy at school, everyone likes him.

He seems to be popular. I didn't get a major sense of him, other than he seemed like a nice guy for helping Harry.


dblsweetness08: Hey Equipoise, you e mailed me about the pic of the Potters from PS/SS, the chapter title is "The Mirror of Erised" , and there is also a pic of them in the chapter "Not really going home". Thanks! I think the PoA pic is them right after they got married, before having Harry, they are (contrary to popular beleif) played by the same actors in all the films (they go uncredited for COS though).

Can you give me the URL again? I'm really blanking on this and I can't find the email. I know I'm supposed to be looking at pictures of Harry's parents to see how they looked in this compared to how they looked in other movies. You'll have to forgive me.


Thi17: hey Equipoise!I have a few questions... how harry and the others find the Barto Crouch DEAD? Was Hagrid there? In the Pensieve Scene( The trial scene) How harry come back..Dumbledore call him? Thanks very much Equipoise..She is my queen!!

You're so sweet! Regarding Crouch, I only remember the camera moving around a tree and a dead body on the ground. I don't remember what came right before it or what came right after it. And, sigh, I'm sorry, I don't remember how Harry came "back."


Briar910: How do Ron and Harry finally get dates to the ball? Can you please describe that scene a little? Thanks.

They're standing there wondering what the heck they're going to do, when one of the Indian girls walks by. A light bulb goes off (not literally, but you can see Harry's eyes light up with the idea) and Harry starts to follow her, then it cuts to something else. Him or Ron actually asking them is not shown.


lala land: Is Harry the first to reach the hostages in the lake task? I think he probably is since you said all the others were in their robes, which I'm guessing means you saw them. Then, Harry hung around for fear of the others' lives. Next, You would've seen Cedric and Krum rescue Cho and Hermione. Finally, Harry takes Ron and Gabrielle and rescues them both. When they are out of the water, Ron tells Harry he was stupid to think Dumbledore would let something bad happen to the hostages and playing the hero (it becomes really important that he likes playing the hero next movie). Does the movie play off anything like this? If not, what deviation does it take?

At the time, I got the impression that Harry was the last to arrive, but you did see all 4 precious things floating in the water so maybe he did get there first. I was shocked to the core. (THAT'S WHAT THE PRECIOUS THINGS ARE????!!!????)

That whole segment is dim and confusing to me. Maybe they just don't have the special effects done. Seems like Krum got Hermione out alright, and Cedric got Cho out alright, but Fleur was having problems and I can't picture what was happening. Then Harry was having problems and I don't know what the heck was going on. Next thing I remember is Harry bobbing up on the surface with Ron and Gabrielle. I don't remember any dialogue about Dumbledore or playing a hero.

I think you should make an animated Ron gif!

I think I will. :)

Thanks for the explanation about the fight. It makes more sense now. Regarding differences between the book and the movie though, I'm really glad I didn't see "Potter Stinks" buttons being thrown about. I think that would have shocked me into catatonia. I was already shocked enough that Ron thought Harry was a liar.


Madame_SugarQuills: I just have one quick question...what was ron`s reaction to seeing hermione at the yule ball...did he smile,blush,etc?

I'm not getting a clear picture in my head about this. General impressions were that everyone was ga-ga.


Harry'sFan: I think I have an idea of what picture you're talking about. I'm not sure if this is the one you're talking about, but I hope it is.This is the part in the trailer when Hermione is yelling Harry's name. Is this the picture you were refering to? Do you by chance remember why Hermione is yelling Harry's name?
http://www.veritaserum.com/galleries/albums/gof/trailers/2005-05-teaser/normal_gofteaser086.jpg
I hope this is the picture! If it isn't, I'll look again. Thanks for answering all of our questions!

Yes, that's almost it. The other one was just from a slightly different angle. Same scene though. I wasn't sure about that scene..I thought, without too much thinking, that it was from the Dragon Task, but when I was looking through the galleries I saw another picture that was DEFINITELY from the Dragon Task. I *think* this is from when Harry comes back with Cedric's body, after the graveyard scene.


BlueImprint: What about any background music that they've used in the movie...so far from what you've seen? because...the music from the trailer is very touching *shakes*, and I just want to know if the same effect has achieved during the test screening...
tnx a lot!!

Whatever music they used was very effective. I'm not a soundtrack person so I don't know what it was. When I saw the trailer for The Two Towers people on another forum were going ape about it being from Requiem For A Dream. I had seen and been very impressed by that movie, but I didn't remember the music. It worked really well for TTT trailer though. Then, months later, I saw RFAD again on DVD, and practically fainted. The part where the music was taken from is highly, HIGHLY INTENSE and uber-shocking. I remembered the scene well from seeing the movie in the theaters, but hadn't remembered the music. I thought, OH MY GOD NO WONDER people were in an uproar about THAT music being used for TTT. That's how much I'm not a soundtrack person.

Anyway, I noticed nothing out of place or inappropriate. We were told before the screening started that the soundtrack was a temporary one.


Stupidfathobbit13: Out of the trio, who do you think did the best preformance?

Ha...no.


Here are the latest questions. I know the forum is shutting down and I applaud that. I don't think any book reader should go anywhere near the internet while they're reading. I went into an unrelated forum and there was a huge spoiler in a subject line. Obviously it was a bogus spoiler, since the book isn't out yet, but I can imagine that jerkoffs pining for attention are just itching to put real spoilers everywhere they can, places where you'd least expect it. I wouldn't even go into a knitting or steam engine forum for fear of spoilers (not that I read knitting or steam engine forums, but you know what I mean).

Stay far far away from everyone except fellow readers. But you all know that.

Hey, I've started to read the first book again! I know I read it once before but I figured I'd start out right, from the beginning. I saw the suggestion about a blog. I'm not sure if I'd be a good blogger. Writing isn't my thing, and as you've found out, keeping on a schedule is *definitely* not my thing. I'll think about it. Y'all are going to be very very busy for several weeks anyway.

If I don't get back here before the forum closes, I want to say again how wonderful I think you all are. Your kindness and patience with me has impressed the hell out of me. Thank you.


beatnik76: Equipoise, thanks again for answering my question, I do appreciate it greatly!! Also, I thought the following photo my help regarding the Karkaroff character and the beard. The photo was taken of the actor portraying the role while he was on a four day break, smack in the middle of filming GoF. I assume that would be the right hair and beard.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/pebbers/bjelac/pedja12.jpg
Again, thanks tons, you're awesome!!

I still don't remember the beard, but he obviously had one. Other than that, yeah, that's how he looked. I never saw him smile. He was VERY intense.


beep1012: Professor Lupin was. Kenneth Branagh wasn't. He was the actor who played Prof. Lockhart in the second film. We also have Prof. Quirral in the first. In the fifth we have Prof. Umbridge, who you are not going to like.

Why won't I like him?


Thi17: We aren't forget you..I am a brazilian boy and the book come's in december =/

Hogwarts_Girl: Yeah I know what you mean,the book comes out december in Bulgaria too,so we'll have to wait a loooong time.. :dry: Equipoise thanks for answering all the questions!You rock!!I can't wait for GOF!!

I'm so sorry for you. You both read English very well, so could you get one from England or America? I'd think stores in Brazil, Bulgaria and elsewhere would be willing to sell English-language copies for expatriats and visitors.


dblsweetness08: Okay Equipose, here's the link for the Potters pictures:
http://www.bunnysneezes.net/notindex2.html
Go "Harry Potter" on the left hand side of the page, then go to screencaps, and then to "The Sorceror's Stone" and then the chapter "The mirror of Erised", thanks a bunch!

Thank you. Yes, they looked like this: http://www.rule-them-all.com/bludgeo....208.jpg
only I don't remember their clothes. They didn't look quite that cool. If anyone from the movie is reading this...yeah, I know I'll never get to go to another test screening for as long as I live because I'm doing this, and, why couldn't I have been part of that focus group?? I was sitting right up front. You could have let me stay there. Waaaah. Also though, I'd suggest re-filming or re-editing or re-thinking in some way that bit with Harry's parents. First of all, the way my memory tells it, they looked way too normal, like a 50's housewife and a suburban dad, not cool-looking wearing those black cloaks they had on before. They also didn't seem anxious or worried about Harry. My memory, which of course could be way off base, has them smiling at Harry and acting like "My Harry, aren't you a fine-looking young man now...ok son, run along now, we'll handle it from here." Their reactions just didn't seem as *urgent* as the situation warranted. Maybe I'm off my rocker, but at the time I was thinking "That's it? That's as dramatic as Harry's parents stepping in to save their son is going to be??" and, undone special effects aside, it was the only thing that seemed "off" about the whole graveyard scene.


coolbeans3131: When Moody is teaching them about the three unforgivable curses, when he mentions the Avada Kedavra curse (the killing curse), does he say this little speech? _"Not nice ... Not pleasant. And there's no countercurse. There's no blocking it. Only one known person has ever survived it, and he's sitting right in front of me."_

I don't remember the exact words but yes, he does say something very much like that. The camera zeros in on Harry and he looks very uncomfortable.

Does Moody scream *CONSTANT VIGILANCE* all the time? Does Prof. McGonagall chastise Moody for turning Malfoy into a ferret?

I don't think so. He might have said it once or twice but it wasn't a constant thing with him. The constant thing was drinking out of the flask. I was surprised they'd let such a lush teach the kids. Of course, now I know what it was about.

Yes, McGonagall gets on Moody's case. "We do NOT turn the students into animals!" or something like that.


ver077: Tom Felton (Draco Malfoy) said somewhere that after the scene where he turns into a ferret, he has to run around the school naked. The interviewer wasn't sure if he was joking or not. So...after he turns back into himself, does he run around naked? Eh? Eh? :D

Nah, he was joking.

At the end of the movie, did you feel like you knew everything you wanted to know, or were you kind of left hanging? I'm not talking about just wanting to know more background about certain characters, but did the story feel like it ended at a good place, or at the end were you like "Hey! It's over? What the ****?"

It felt good to me. I was left wanting more, but in a good way, wanting to read the book and see the movie again. I wasn't left with a "how could they just end like that??" feeling.

Thank you sooooooooooooooo much for answering! I've read everything you've said so far, from the Oscar place forum to here!

Thank you and you're welcome. You're so kind, just like everyone here is.


smellyfeet: *How was your overall opinion of Cedric Diggory Did he portray a 'tragic little hero' or was the death in particular shocking?* *You mentioned before a lake scene, can you explain more about this please?*

I think I got these in my batch from yesterday. I'll have to check.


lala land: At the Yule Ball, did Ron sort of (sorry for the word I'm about to use) diss on Viktor Krum the entire time? Did he say anything along the lines of "You're fratenizing with the enemy"? It's one of my favorite lines. He tries to make it sound like Vicky (did he call him that, btw?) is using Hermione to get to Harry. Good stuff. If not, what did he do, besides huffing and puffing?

Yes, there was something like that there. He definitely said something about fraternizing with the enemy and Krum using Hermione to find out what Harry's up to. I don't think he called Krum Vicky, which would have perked my ears up since my name is Vickie. If he did, I didn't hear it.

Any more good details about the Yule Ball? I like it a lot!

It was a nice sequence. I remembered another detail about one of the dances (not the punk rock dance, which came later). The boys swing the girls around, grab them by their waists and lift them up. I remember thinking at the time that I wondered if Hagrid was going to lift up Madame Maxime (I really wanted to see that), but they didn't show it. If Harry danced it would have been during this part. I just don't remember Harry dancing. Maybe he did since I've now seen pictures of him dancing (though I'm sure he didn't dance with Hermione). The two special things I remember that I've mentioned before are Herminone having SUCH a good time (really, she was just sparkling), and Harry, Ron and their poor dates having an absolutely miserable time.


Wants2BeAnExtra: Where were Fred, George, and Ginny at the World Cup? Were they with the trio?

I only remember them as a group heading for their tent after they first got there, and in the tent after the World Cup, talking (that was when the bunk beds were floating above each other, quite delightful). They could have been sitting together in the stands, but I don't remember.

Also, where is Harry when he sees Crouch set off the Dark Mark and he (Harry) passes out?

He's laying on the ground, but starts to get up and looks over and sees Crouch. I'm pretty sure he's not standing up.

It would be more scary if they were in the forest/woods like it was in the book. When I read that part I always imagine how scary it would look, being late and dark and in the woods...creepy!

It is late and dark, with lots of smoke around from the burned tents, but no woods, sorry.

Also, does Voldermort taunt Harry at all in the graveyard? Does Harry run around behind the headstone of Tom Riddle, and like, wait for Voldermort to come? Also, I know you have said Harry was not tied up, but was he confined some way? Did Wormtail shove something in his mouth to keep him quiet?

Voldemort does taunt Harry though of course I don't remember what was said. Harry doesn't run around the headstone, he's captured almost immediately. He was was thrown against the tomb. He was standing up, pressed against the tomb, with what my memory tells me was some sort of sword across his chest, so he couldn't move. I don't remember if he had anything in his mouth.

Thanks! You're so nice to answer these questions. You know you can stop anytime if you want, you've done more than enough!

It's fun!


Spookster831: I have a question. Was Snape in the movie a lot? How did his hair look? Was it like in the Prisoner of Azkaban or like the first movie? Lol... Also, when you say he whacked some students who weren't studying did he like really whack them or what?

Snape had a few scene, the major one being at the end in Moody's office. I'd have to see pictures to know if his hair was different. He wacked them on the top of their heads with something, I'm not sure what.


wheezy's_gal: Oh, and if you read the book, you'll understand more why Ron thought Harry was lying about entering the tournament. Its bcoz the day before the announcement, Harry said something along the lines of "he would most likely give it a try like the twins did". And Ron thought of Harry having the Marauders Map and the Invisibility Cloak, which makes it more believable to him that Harry indeed tried to do it over the night.

Ah! Now I understand. I definitely get that the Harry of the movies is not as complex as the Harry of the books.

I think, what Ron really resented was that Harry didnt ask him to go along with him on that night's adventure, or even gust tell him about it, and that Harry even tries to deny to him when he's his best friend.

Ok, that would make much more sense to fans then because they would know this background. Thank you for telling me.

I a few hours from now, the lounge will be hollow and empty :p and if you shout, you will hear echoes of your own voice

I know, I'm so excited for you guys!


Insufferable-know-it-all: *1)* In the end of the movie does Fudge (prime minister type guy) come in a not believe that Voldermort is back when Dumbledore tells him?

I don't remember Fudge at all in the movie.

*2)* Also if that happens, does Snape show the dark mark on his arm, and explain that the dark mark being back means Voldermort is back in power?

The mark wasn't explained at all, and I only remember it being shown that once, in Moody's office.

*3)* As for Snape (who as one may tell I have an unhealthy attachment too), is there a scene in the movie that takes place in Dumbledore's office, where Harry looks into a Pensieve (a liquid type thing that stores the owners memories and plays them back for them) and see Snape?

I didn't think that Harry saw Snape. I'm not sure what it was that caused him to lean over more and fall in.


isc_hector: *EQUIPOISE, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! I kinda have more peace of mind about this movie and it's all because of you!!! This is my favorite book and, logically, this movie is very very important for me, I've been following the process (like every single fan here, I'm sure), since they began filming...

Thanks to you and others who have told me I've made them feel a bit better. I can tell that tons of good stuff had to be left out, which must upset all the fans, but, you'll know all the background and can fill in the blanks as you watch. You'll also be able to notice so many more details around the edges that completely passed me by. It should be a very rich experience for those of you who can accept the movie for what it is and not wholeheartedly condemn it for what it doesn't contain. I feel sorry for those people who just have to have the book onscreen, and nothing else will do. I still laugh at that small, lonely pocket of LOTR fans who either just outright REFUSED to see the movies because how dare they even film them, or saw it and couldn't feel the magic through their haze of pointless nitpicks.

Now, I have a question that might be stupid to ask by now, but I haven't seen anybody else asking it and since it's one of my favorite book moments, I have GOT to know... THE DARK MARK (THE SKULL IN THE SKY, CONJURED BY BARTY CROUCH)... YOU'VE ALREADY TOLD US ABOUT SNAPE'S TATOO (WHICH, ACCORDING TO YOU IS ANIMATED AND I WAS THRILLED TO KNOW THAT, BY THE WAY). BUT, COULD YOU GIVE US MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE MARK IN THE SKY??? IN THE BOOK IT'S DESCRIBED AS A CONSTELLATION, THAT IS TO SAY, MADE OF STAR-LIKE LIGHTS. WE'VE SEEN DIFFERENT IN SOME PICTURES, IT LOOKS VERY SOLID. COULD YOU PLEASE PLEASE GIVE US EVERY DETAIL YOU REMEMBER ABOUT THIS? WAS IT LIKE MADE OF STARS? WAS IT LIKE SOLID? SMOKY? WAS IT ANIMATED? DID THE SNAKE/TONGUE MOVE?? OR WAS THE WHOLE THING STATIC?

It wasn't static or solid, and it didn't look like it was made of stars. It was smoky-ish, more like it was made out of dark clouds. It moved slowly, undulating. IT WAS GREAT! It was shown from an angle, not face-on, and the thing itself was angled, looking at the ground. I don't know if all the special effects were done yet (I didn't see a snake tongue), but what was there was very very impressive. I stared at it wide-eyed, just thinking...WOW! They showed it a couple of times.

I'd love to see the picture you talk about. Where could I find it?

ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!! :clap: *

You are so welcome!

On preview, glad I could help coolbeans!